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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (14210)	1/23/2007 4:39:05 PM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 22250

Crimson > The Zionist dream is becoming a nightmare. There is no place in the world where the Jewish people are more insecure than in Israel, in part, of course, because of the continuation of anti-Semitism, especially in the Islamic world, but also because of the policies and behavior of the Jewish state. It is my view that there is no inherent anti-Semitism in the Muslim world except that which has arisen directly as result of the crimes of the state of Israel against Muslims. This would be correctly called anti-Zionism but, of course, the Zionists like to camouflage their iniquitous acts beneath the facade of anti-Semitism. Jews lived happily in Islamic countries for hundreds of years and, indeed, the Golden Age of Jews in Spain was under Islamic rule, before the Catholics took over the country and drove out the Muslims and the Jews. > Zionism’s drive to create a state for the Jewish people was designed to serve two purposes. The most fundamental of them was to provide a refuge that would ensure the well-being and security of the Jewish people, wherever they were endangered by the ever-recurring historical cycles of murderous global anti-Semitism—most recently, of course, the Holocaust. Anti-Semitism in Europe is not an excuse to have driven Arabs off their land in Palestine. > the Jewish state of Israel was to be a moral exemplar for all mankind, “a light unto the nations,” the model of the kind of state that a liberal, well educated, sophisticated, and morally sensitive people—“the people of the Book”—could create. That's absolute nonsense -- the state of Israel was created by deceit, by fraud and by war and, from a religious point-of-view, involved the violation of many Commandments. > the religious argument for Jewish sovereignty over Palestine is unpersuasive, and the argument based on previous possession of the land is even more so. Without any doubt. > After the Holocaust, it was clear to people of good will everywhere that the creation of a Jewish state was now morally imperative, and that there was no practical place to put such a state other than in Palestine. Good will, my arse. The Europeans wanted to get rid of the Jews for once and for all and it suited them -- and still does -- that the state of Israel is nowhere near Europe. Their guilt for centuries of antiSemitism which led up to the Holocaust is matched only by their duplicity and disingenuousness. As Ahmadinejad says correctly, the state of Israel should have been in Germany, not the Middle East. > the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is no longer a continuation of an historically unavoidable "Original Sin"; rather,it has become an avoidable, ongoing, and ever-worsening sin. Avoidable because there was a reasonable chance that the conflict might have been resolved long ago, had the Israelis acknowledged the inevitable harms done to the Palestinians by the creation of Israel as well as the subsequent expulsion of some 750,000 Palestinians from their homes and villages, and resolved to do everything possible to make up for these injustices in any manner possible, short of abandoning the Jewish state in one part of the land of Palestine. Israel’s failure to acknowledge its responsibilities and moral obligations to the Palestinians has turned a tragedy into a crime. In fact, it was always a crime, now it's a disaster -- most of all for the Israelis, in fact, who have been deceived by their own government into a dead-end situation, something like Masada. Worse still, the US has been dragged into this morass and is also paying the price. Unfortunately, in my opinion, there is now no simple solution, even giving back the land and paying reparations to the Palestinian victims will not be enough. Furthermore, the threat of true democracy to Israel is even greater than Arab terrorism because then there will be no more Jewish exclusivity -- and the state of Israel will serve no purpose. As I see it, Masada, in one form or another, is the only conceivable outcome.