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To: mistermj who wrote (214414)1/24/2007 3:08:05 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
We were talking about the definition. The definition of the word "murder" was the subject of my posts. It was a purely semantical matter.

As for my views on abortion, I had a very nice conversation with Steve here. If you want to see my views, I posted them to him. I see no need to post them again. And I'm really not interested in arguing about it. We all have our minds made up- some because of religious principles, some because of logic- I don't say either is superior objectively, but the two methods of coming to a decision are not going to reconcile in this instance, I think (although under certain circumstances they might, but they don't have to, and they don't seem to usually reconcile).



To: mistermj who wrote (214414)1/24/2007 3:09:26 PM
From: one_less  Respond to of 281500
 
"According to your logic it is simply a matter of being lawful or not...and not a moral issue."

Laws are legally enforceable rules of right and wrong.

Morals are doctrines of conduct based on principles of right and wrong.

If they were clearly distinguishable or in absolute agreement, this discussion would be over.



To: mistermj who wrote (214414)1/24/2007 4:05:12 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Is killing people in war "murder"? What if they are civilians and not combatants? Is that "murder"? Are executed criminals "murdered"?

We say not. So, we can say abortion isn't murder too.