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To: combjelly who wrote (322913)	1/25/2007 7:42:13 AM
From: Taro	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574616

This sounds like a legacy description of the working class vs those capitalists!

To: combjelly who wrote (322913)	1/25/2007 10:23:17 AM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574616

"Often we have to prostitute ourselves to incarnate our dreams. But that doesn't mean we are less artists than Picasso. Often we are more" Good for you CJ. Not even all engineers see this. In the games I used to create, I was the "technical" side, and the management hired "creative" people to design them. But what I did was just as creative, if not more so, in the much more restrictive, haiku type environment of programming. But, only another engineer can really appreciate it. You know you've done something good when you get asked by a peer, "How'd you do THAT?"

To: combjelly who wrote (322913)	1/25/2007 4:43:44 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574616

Jobs is a salesman. He knows engineers well enough to coopt their dreams. He knows he can exploit them because because they want to see their dreams reach fruition. And that is more important to them than taking credit or even getting stock options. I never said Jobs was a great engineer or inventor. I said he was a brilliant CEO and part of the CEO's job is to sell his/her products to the world and to know what products people will want even when they don't know themselves. That's what Jobs is brilliant at, and for that, I can't help admiring him.