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To: jlallen who wrote (76766)1/25/2007 2:54:12 PM
From: sea_biscuit  Respond to of 93284
 
Wheels within wheels within wheels... who inside the Green Zone tipped the Iraqi resistance about the high-value targets in the UH-60 copter that was brought down??

The lone UH-60 helicopter that was brought down on January 20 is turning out to be a command and control disaster for the United States.

Arguably, this single event could turn out to be the single biggest hit the Army has taken to date in Iraq.

The List of Casualties from this attack contains the following:

2 Colonels
1 Lieutenant Colonel
1 Major
1 Captain
2 Command Sergeant Majors
1 First Sergeant
1 Sergeant First Class
2 Staff Sergeants
1 Corporal

That's one hell of a lot of brass on a single helicopter flight. This could indicate infiltration into the Green Zone of untold proportions.

Let's be clear, half of the manifest includes four field grade officers and two CSMs. That's a huge loss for a small and agile force such as what we've got deployed in Iraq. On top of this fact is also the fact that CSMs are the enlisted equivalent of general officers. CSMs run the army. CSMs can bring any company grade officer down with little effort. The only officers that will generally stand up to a CSM and call them on the carpet would be full bird colonels (two of which were lost on this flight) and command officers (i.e. generals).

The loss of a single CSM can often bring a full brigade to a standstill.

When faced with an insurgency using guerilla tactics, taking out four field grade officers with a single shot is a victory of epic proportions.

The military indicates it is investigating the event. Two questions must be answered:

1. Why were so many high value targets placed ona single helicaopter flight?

2. Who knew so many high value targets would be on this flight, especially who within the Iraqi government and military?



To: jlallen who wrote (76766)1/25/2007 3:55:21 PM
From: sea_biscuit  Respond to of 93284
 
Neocon warmonger Michael Ledeen lies through his ass (just like the rest of the Dumbyasshole neocons and Dumbyasshole lovers like you) :

Ledeen now :

I do not feel ‘remorseful,’ since I had and have no involvement with our Iraq policy. I opposed the military invasion of Iraq before it took place.

Too bad for Ledeen, Google exists and Greenwald knows how to use it.

Declaring that "Saddam is actively supporting al Qaeda, and Abu Nidal, and Hezbollah," Ledeen wrote, "the Palestinian question can only be addressed effectively once the war against Saddam and his ilk has been won." In response to Scowcroft’s concern that invading Iraq could "turn the whole region into a caldron and destroy the War on Terror," Ledeen retorted, "One can only hope that we turn the region into a cauldron, and faster, please. If ever there were a region that richly deserved being cauldronized, it is the Middle East today."

On countless occasions, Ledeen called for the invasion to start as soon as possible. In an August 2002 interview with FrontPage Magazine, when Jamie Glazov asked when the war should begin. Ledeen answered, "Yesterday."

He appeared on MSNBC’s "Hardball" on Aug. 19 to complain again that the war had not started: "I think that if President Bush is to be faulted for anything in this so far, it’s that he’s taken much too long to get on with it, much too long."

The following month, in the Wall Street Journal, Ledeen wrote, "Saddam Hussein is a terrible evil, and President Bush is entirely right in vowing to end his reign of terror. If we come to Baghdad, Damascus and Tehran as liberators, we can expect overwhelming popular support. [I]t is impossible to imagine that the Iranian people would tolerate tyranny in their own country once freedom had come to Iraq. Syria would follow in short order."