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To: Garden Rose who wrote (215039)	1/26/2007 2:55:20 PM
From: mistermj	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Striking out at me with anger and more lies doesn't add to your credibility. You still can't prove one lie...not even one. But you have been going on and on about it for two days now. Even a garden rose has thorns.

To: Garden Rose who wrote (215039)	1/26/2007 5:37:56 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 281500

Facts. There were apparently few or no wmds in iraq. Everybody in the world leadership community believed there were and the only real question was how far along on nukes they were. This all was a huge intel debacle. Some folks got it right, guessing that saddam was a blowhard. Some iraqi expatriates deceived the US govt. Some folks who say they got it right in fact could care less about wmds and were obsessed by US "imperialism" and "bush" and thus didnt get it right at all. Some folks think that getting rid of saddam was a good thing and that the real failure is fighting the post war civil war. Other folks think that while getting rid of saddam was a good thing, the civil war was inevitable and given that, the US shouldnt have broken Humpty Dumpty and continued to deter saddam as best they could instead of overthrow. After all we do that with iran and NK today. Problem was that iraq was seen as low hanging fruit and was chosen to make an example to the islamic world of US strength. No matter which category one is in, all have to admit that it turned out to be very bitter fruit indeed.