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To: DMaA who wrote (194427)1/27/2007 7:55:45 PM
From: skinowski  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 794012
 
I can't wait till Rudy gives us his plans for health care.

I can't wait till we have a candidate who will plan NOT to mess with health care. A single payer system will give the Congress too much money/power. Everything else would end up being "incremental" - or, more likely, DEtremental.

In the end, we'll have to abandon the "egalitarian" concept of health care - namely, that everyone is entitled to the same level of care, and that money is no object when it comes to a person's health. The HMO's are already doing a fine job at demolishing the latter notion.

We need a basic health care safety net. In addition, individuals would be able to purchase "augmented" health insurance - at different levels and price ranges.

Everyone should receive medical attention if needed. Under the safety net, that care would be basic - and not necessarily convenient. The recipient may have to travel to a public clinic for a medical visit. If needed, recipients would be hospitalized - but in a ward, rather than in a semi-private room. And they would be cared for by the house staff - rather than by the Director of Medicine, as it were.

Test and procedure availability would have to differ - and would be prioritized depending on the level of insurance. Why not? The people of Canada - or Britain - can wait for weeks or months) to get an MRI.... but our Medicaid makes one entitled to instant answers.

Of course, such a safety net system could end up being used as a back door to universal care. The designers would have to be careful about that.

Just a few thoughts.



To: DMaA who wrote (194427)1/28/2007 12:41:34 AM
From: KLP  Respond to of 794012
 
Found two health care plans from Guiliani, this in 2000 before 9-11....It will be interesting to see if he deviates much from this proposal....

Citing Own Cancer, Giuliani Offers Plan On Health Coverage
By ELISABETH BUMILLER

June 15, 2000

query.nytimes.com

Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani announced a health initiative yesterday aimed at aggressively enrolling nearly one million uninsured New York City children and adults in Medicaid and other government health care programs. He said his ambitions for the plan came about partly because of his change in attitude toward illness after he learned he had prostate cancer.

''If we can do this, it becomes a model for the rest of the country,'' Mr. Giuliani said as he presided over a news conference in the city's public hearing chamber. He added that ''this is a big goal that has eluded New York City and most of America in the past.'' If successful, the program would also help redefine Mr. Giuliani's legacy as he prepares to leave City Hall for possible future political campaigns.

As the mayor explained it, the plan, called Health Stat, is an expansion of a more modest program that his administration began working on six months ago. The new plan will divide the city into eight regions, each run by a manager. Within each region, schools, hospitals, food stamp offices, job centers, police precinct headquarters and others will either help enroll or give information to the more than 900,000 people eligible for state and federal health insurance who are not now covered.

Mr. Giuliani described them as ''people who literally could have health insurance today if they knew about it, we knew about them, and we made the proper connection and got them to fill out the correct forms and got them covered.''

''There's no reason that that shouldn't be done,'' he said, ''other than the fact that it just hasn't been organized in the right way.''

The uninsured would feed into two existing programs, Medicaid and Child Health Plus, plus a third program, Family Health Plus, which is expected to start in January 2001. Insuring children, Mr. Giuliani said, would be the first priority. Health care experts say one of the biggest problems in insuring children is reaching their parents, who are often unaware of their eligibility and are intimidated by the forms.

The mayor said he did not know what the Health Stat program would cost, but acknowledged that it would be ''a good deal of money.''

Budget projections for enrolling 344,000 people by 2004 -- the scope of the program before Mr. Giuliani expanded it a month ago -- put the cost to the city at $130 million. The Health Stat program would nearly triple the number of enrollees.

The program is the mayor's first major policy initiative since he ended his Senate candidacy and said he wanted to use his remaining 18 months in office to try to embrace those New Yorkers he had alienated in the past.

For one of the first times while announcing a major policy effort, the mayor invited former enemies like Alan G. Hevesi, the city comptroller, and Mark Green, the city's public advocate.

The City Council speaker, Peter F. Vallone, and the chancellor of the New York City schools, Harold O. Levy, whose appointment Mr. Giuliani initially opposed, were also present. The mayor singled out each man at the end of his remarks. ''I would like to work with all of you,'' he said.

Mr. Green had worked with Mr. Giuliani in coming up with a part of the plan, and is to have a role in putting it into effect.

''The mayor said the words a few weeks ago that he wanted to reach out to shunned communities and officials and work together in the city's interest,'' Mr. Green said. ''Those words have been backed up, at least today, by a real deed.''

The program was also in striking contrast to the Giuliani administration's policy of removing people from the welfare rolls. Health care experts said that while the two programs were not inconsistent -- health insurance has been shown to help people make the transition from welfare to work -- the seemingly contradictory messages could cause confusion among the uninsured people the city is trying to reach.

''When you're putting out a message that public assistance is bad and you should stay away, it's hard to reconcile that with a message that health insurance is good and you should come,'' said David Sandman, a program officer at the Commonwealth Fund, a private philanthropic organization in New York.

But Mr. Sandman and other health care policy experts also praised the plan as a significant step toward solving the problem of the city's 1.8 million uninsured residents without creating a new, more expensive health insurance program from scratch.

''This is a level of intensity in terms of signing people up for public programs that we don't see in many other parts of the country,'' said James R. Tallon, the president of the United Hospital Fund, a philanthropy group.

The outreach efforts, Mr. Giuliani said, would include holding ''enrollment events'' at schools and enrolling summer school students and participants in the city's summer jobs program.

Health care experts said they applauded the mayor's efforts but said the problem was complex and labor intensive, and would take years to solve. ''This is a very big challenge, and it's not just a matter of getting the word out,'' said Mr. Sandman of the Commonwealth Fund.

The administration of the plan is patterned after the New York City Police Department's successful Compstat program, in which 76 precinct commanders meet weekly to monitor crime statistics in their areas and deploy forces as needed.

To gauge progress or change methods of outreach, Mr. Giuliani said, the city will hold Compstat-like weekly meetings monitoring the number of uninsured signed up in each region. The initial meetings will be held at the city's Office of Emergency Management, the command center in the World Trade Center where Mr. Giuliani goes to oversee city crises and bad weather.

Mr. Giuliani said the Compstat idea came to him about three weeks ago while he was showering. ''That's literally where it happened,'' he told the assembled city officials and reporters at the news briefing.

At around the same time, shortly after Mr. Giuliani withdrew from the Senate race, he decided to expand the program to try to reach nearly one million uninsured residents. In his State of the City speech in January, Mr. Giuliani had set a smaller goal of signing up 200,000 to 300,000 uninsured people who are eligible for Medicaid.

But when he withdrew from the Senate race on May 19, Mr. Giuliani said he wanted to increase the number of people covered by health insurance because of what he had learned from his illness.

''One of the things that I felt from the beginning of this and continue to feel is a tremendous sense of compassion for the people that have to make decisions like this alone,'' he said. ''One of the things, maybe, that I can do is figure out how we accelerate making sure that people are covered. I mean, there are a lot of things that I can accomplish that I haven't accomplished before.''



To: DMaA who wrote (194427)1/28/2007 12:43:52 AM
From: KLP  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 794012
 
Also this version of a 1995 NYT view of Giuliani's Fiscal Plan...The unions must have been screaming here....Giuliani Fiscal Plan Puts Health Care Jobs at Risk

query.nytimes.com

By THOMAS J. LUECK

Published: February 18, 1995

By calling for huge cuts in Medicaid and social service programs, Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani's plan to reduce city spending by $1.3 billion is likely to lead to the loss of tens of thousands of jobs in the health care industry, the segment of the New York City economy that has been the strongest source of job growth for more than a decade.

In an interview, David R. Rubenstein, assistant director of the Mayor's Office of Management and Budget, estimated that Medicaid cuts alone would lead to job reductions of 10,000 to 30,000 at hospitals, nursing homes, mental health clinics and other medical centers, and remove $1 billion a year in wages.

Since 295,000 people now work in New York City health care jobs, the loss could trim up to 10 percent of the industry's work force. But since health care has been adding about 10,000 jobs a year, Mr. Rubenstein said, the Medicaid cuts might mean a temporary halt in the industry's growth.

Still, the proposed Medicaid cuts would be combined with a sharp reduction in direct city spending in the Department of Social Services, which contracts out foster care and other services to hundreds of private organizations, which themselves employ thousands of workers. Under the Giuliani plan, its budget would be reduced by over $100 million beginning in the fiscal year that begins next July.

In announcing his financial blueprint, Mr. Giuliani said it would lead to a more vibrant economy -- and ultimately job growth -- as banks, advertising firms and other businesses gain confidence in the city's fiscal stability and expand. Hospitals, clinics and social service agencies, he and his advisers said, will be expected to do more with less government support.

"Health care needs may grow, but we can't supply them in the same expensive way," Mr. Rubenstein said. "The Mayor is saying that the choice is not there to continually tax to raise spending."

But the plan has provoked vehement opposition from union leaders and hospital executives, who say it will decimate an industry whose growth is vital to the economy as well as the social fabric of the nation's largest city.

"It's going to be catastrophic," said Dennis Rivera, president of Chapter 1199 of the National Health and Human Services Employees Union, which has 117,000 members in New York state. He estimated that the Mayor's proposal, combined with a plan by Gov. George E. Pataki for even deeper Medicaid cuts, would lead to 100,000 health care job cuts in the state, 80,000 of them in New York City.

If the Governor's budget is adopted and all the elements of Mr. Giuliani's proposals are accepted, the city's health care industry could lose an estimated $5.4 billion. The city's Health and Hospitals Corporation, which operates 11 public hospitals, would stand to lose more than $1 billion of its $3.4 billion budget.

Experts say it is impossible to predict how the burden of caring for poor people would be shifted, particularly at a time when AIDS, widespread drug abuse and an aging population continue to create demands for medical care and social services. Although many health care and social service workers say there are ways to improve efficiency, they maintain that the Mayor's plan would cut deep into the bone.

"This could almost force us to close up the shop," said Humberto L. Martinez, a psychiatrist and director of the South Bronx Mental Health Council, which provides counseling to over 1,600 patients a year suffering from drug addiction, alcoholism or mental illness. The proposed cutbacks would be a double blow to his organization, since 90 percent of its patients receive Medicaid reimbursements that would be cut, and it has several contracts with the city's Department of Mental Health, which would lose 4 percent of its $91.3 budget under the Mayor's plan.

Economists say the spillover of job loss in health care and social services is difficult to predict. At City Hall, Mr. Rubenstein said the ripples would be "minimal" compared to cutbacks in other, higher wage industries, where lost jobs mean deep reductions in consumer spending and income taxes.

Still, many experts say medical care and social services have a special role in New York City, because hospitals, mental health clinics and social service centers provide outposts of economic activity in poor neighborhoods.

And wherever they are situated, health and social service centers have provided entry-level employment to thousands of New Yorkers, replacing the garment makers and other manufacturers who had traditionally served as the point of entry into the city's workforce.

"The sad irony is that many of our employees are now going to go on Medicaid and welfare themselves," said Thomas O'Brien, executive director of the Family Care Services of Brooklyn and Queens, which employs 1,800 home care workers who aid sick and elderly Medicaid recipients in their homes.

Many experts outside City Hall applaud the effort to hold down Medicaid costs, saying that health care and social service organizations have grown inefficient, in part because of the relative largess of Medicaid subsidies to New York patients. They maintain that the cuts proposed by the Mayor and the Governor reflect the national campaign to contain medical costs.

"At a time when most of the economy is being forced to become more efficient, these not-for-profit medical and social service folks will have to do the same thing," said Emmanuel Tobier, a professor of economics and planning at New York University. Health and social service industries "should have prepared for radical changes, but they didn't," he added.

As Mayor Giuliani has said repeatedly since announcing his plan for Medicaid cuts, the average reimbursement of patients in the state is higher than in any other state.

Still, whatever the potential long-term benefits of his cuts, there is little dispute over the potential short-term impact on jobs.

"The Mayor is saying that one of the major engines of growth of the last decade is about to konk out," said Samuel M. Ehrenhalt, the New York Regional Commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

He said New York City health care employment had grown by 102,500 since 1980, to 295,300 at the end of last year. The most rapid growth has been since 1988, when overall employment in the city has sunk by 30,000 jobs, and when health care jobs grew by just over 50,000.

Social services, although a smaller sector of the city economy, has grown more rapidly. Since 1980, the number of social service jobs has soared to 148,000 from 66,000, according to Federal figures.

Mayor Giuliani's advisers offer little hope that other industries will pick up the slack. Indeed, in announcing his cuts, the Mayor released a grim economic analysis that concluded that job growth in the city would be far less vigorous than elsewhere in the country.

As a result, even as the mayor predicts that his spending cuts will revitalize the economy, his financial plan forecasts that job growth in the city will not exceed 1 percent a year in each of the next four years, a pace less than half that of the nation.

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