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To: American Spirit who wrote (74060)1/27/2007 8:12:40 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
Newsweek Poll: "more than half the country (58 percent) say they wish the Bush presidency were simply over"

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To: American Spirit who wrote (74060)1/27/2007 10:24:00 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
Subject: Presidential IQs
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 01:49:13 +0000

Presidential IQs:

A report published Monday, by the Lovenstein Institute of Scranton ,
Pennsylvania , detailed its findings of a four month study of the
intelligence quotient of President George W. Bush. Since 1973, the
Lovenstein Institute has published its research to the educational
community on each new president, which includes the famous "IQ" report
among others.

There have been twelve presidents over the past 50 years, from F.D.
Roosevelt to G.W. Bush, who were rated based on scholarly achievements:

1. Writings that they produced without aid of staff.

2. Their ability to speak with clarity, and several other psychological
factors, which were then scored using the Swanson/Crain System of
intelligence ranking.

The study determined the following IQs of each president as accurate
to within five percentage points. In order by presidential term:

Franklin Delano Roosevelt [D] 142,
Harry S Truman [D] 132,
Dwight David Eisenhower [R] 122
John Fitzgerald Kennedy [D] 174,
Lyndon Baines Johnson [D] 126,
Richard Milhous Nixon [R] 155,
Gerald R. Ford [R] 121,
James Earle Carter [D] 175,
Ronald Wilson Reagan [R] 105
George Herbert Walker Bush [R] 98,
William Jefferson Clinton [D] 182,
George Walker Bush [R] 91

In order of IQ rating:

182 . . William Jefferson Clinton [D]
175 . . James Earle Carter [D]
174 . . John Fitzgerald Kennedy [D]
155 . . Richard Milhous Nixon [R]
147 . . Franklin Delano Roosevelt [D]
132 .. . Harry S Truman [D]
126 . . Lyndon Baines Johnson [D]
122 . . Dwight David Eisenhower [R]
121 . . Gerald R. Ford [R]
105 . . Ronald Wilson Reagan [R]
098 . . George Herbert Walker Bush [R]
091 . . George Walker Bush [R]

The six Republican presidents of the past 50 years had an average IQ of
115.5, with President Nixon having the highest at 155. President George
W. Bush rated the lowest of all the Republicans with an IQ of 91.

The six Democratic presidents of the past 50 years had an average IQ of
156, with President Clinton having the highest IQ, at 182. President
Lyndon B. Johnson was rated the lowest of all the Democrats with an IQ
of 126. No president other than Carter [D] has released his actual IQ
(176). Note the institute measured him at 175.

Among comments made concerning the specific testing of President G.W.
Bush, his low ratings are due to his apparently difficult command of
the English language in public statements, his limited use of
vocabulary [6,500 words for Bush versus an average of 11,000 words for
other presidents], his lack of scholarly achievements other than a
basic MBA, and an absence of any body of work which could be studied on
an intellectual basis.

The complete report documents the methods and procedures used to arrive
at these ratings, including depth of sentence structure and voice
stress confidence analysis.

"All the Presidents prior to George W. Bush had a least one book under
their belt, and most had written several white papers during their
education or careers. Not so with President Bush," Dr. Lovenstein said.
"He has no published works or writings, which made it more difficult to
arrive at an assessment. We relied more heavily on transcripts of his
unscripted public speaking."

The Lovenstein Institute of Scranton , Pennsylvania think tank includes
high caliber historians, psychiatrists, sociologists, scientists in
human behavior, and psychologists. Among their ranks are Dr. Werner R.
Lovenstein, world-renowned sociologist, and Professor Patricia
F.Dilliams, a world-respected psychiatrist For more information on the
Lovenstein Institute, go to: lovenstein.org .

Hmm - The smartest president didn't know enough to keep his pants
zipped and the dumbest one thinks he can run a war.



To: American Spirit who wrote (74060)1/28/2007 5:10:21 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
Richard Perle: Bush Will Bomb Iran

coffeehouse.tpmcafe.com

By M.J. Rosenberg Jan 21, 2007

This is worth noting. From Ha'aretz tonight...

haaretz.com

"President George Bush will order an attack on Iran if it becomes clear to him that Iran is set to acquire nuclear weapons capabilities while he is still in office, Richard Perle told the Herzliya Conference on Sunday. Perle is close to the Bush administration, particularly to Vice President Richard Cheney.

The leading neoconservative and fellow at the American Enterprise Institute addressed the session on Iran's nuclear program. He said that the present policy of attempting to impose sanctions on Iran will not cause it to abandon its nuclear aspirations, and unless stopped the country will become a nuclear power."

The Herzliya Conference is the most prestigious foreign policy conference in Israel. It is neither right nor left wing. But it is the place top Israelis go to make major pronouncements.

No way of knowing if Perle has inside information. But he remains close to all the key neocons in the administration: Cheney, Abrams, Wurmser, etc.

It does seem that Bush seems strangely cheerful about his legacy despite the Iraq project's collapse. Same with the neocons who are down but not out.

If Perle is right, it is because Bush and the boys know that the attack on Iran will, in every conceivable way, dwarf his achievements (!) in Iraq.

Is the bombing of Iran what Bush is thinking about when he thinks legacy? Sure sounds like it.



To: American Spirit who wrote (74060)1/28/2007 7:58:13 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
Interview With John Conyers, on Impeachment and Investigating Bush

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