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Politics : WAR on Terror. Will it engulf the Entire Middle East? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (20367)	1/29/2007 2:16:34 PM
From: Ichy Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32591

Because I have lived for 60 years on both sides of the border and have relations living or buried within 20 miles of the border, and in most states, I found that mostly I wanted to put them in body bags and ship draft dodgers home to their families.

To: Solon who wrote (20367)	1/29/2007 2:57:44 PM
From: Richnorth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32591

Don't you forget that Johnson started the war on a false premise that the countries of SE Asia would fall like dominoes once Vietnam fell, and he created the Gulf of Tonkin Incident as a pretext to launch a full-scale war against Vietnam. From the vantage point of history, it is visible that Johnson was asking for trouble. He could have ended the war during his watch. But his hubris prevented him (as was the case with his successor Nixon) from ending the war. All told, the Vietnam War was a war nobody wanted except those with a false sense of their importance and were obsessed with their self-righteousness. At the end of the day, Vietnam turned out to be a peaceful country and its mentor, China (once disparagingly dubbed as the "Yellow Peril") turned out to be no peril at all and is actually proving to be a helping hand for America. BTW, I was in SE Asia at the height of the Vietnam War. I was daily bombarded with news of all sorts of atrocities committed by the North Vietnamese and that these barbarians had to eliminated. But little do Americans know about their own history, or so it would seem, about the injustices perpetrated on the Indians such as broken promises and treaties and massacres of the Indians as described in "Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee", and about their own ancestors among whom were ruthless bandits and stagecoach robbers, horse thieves, cattle rustlers and bootleggers and mindless lynchers and killers of blacks & etc & etc. Isn't it ironic today that America would moralize and especially in places where there is a lot of oil or control of which would give America undue advantage over its perceived foes (or conveniently "created" ones) It is remarkable that some folks still think of the Vietnam War as a justified war and they condemn draft dodgers in general without knowing all their personal circumstances. (But they are oddly silent about Cheney and Ashcroft who were draft dodgers and their AWOL Prez Bush). LOL! Those moralizing folks will do well to read about America's faults and mistakes in Robert McNamara's "FOG OF WAR". Yea, Johnson went to war on false pretenses. He not only got his nose bloodied, he was too humbled and embarrassed to stand for re-election and he died of a heart attack. Do a google on the Gulf of Tonkin Incident and you will see how self-righteous and cocksure of victory Johnson was in August 1964. They say that history repeat itself, and for sure, we are seeing it today. They say that a fool never learns; he stays behind to see how much he can take, that is, he wants to establish his masochistic tolerance). . .