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To: jlallen who wrote (323550)	1/29/2007 3:38:00 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575173

"Here's the definition...." That isn't a very complete definition. Try this one... Fascism is a political ideology and mass movement that seeks to place the nation, defined in exclusive biological, cultural, and/or historical terms, above all other sources of loyalty, and to create a mobilized national community.[1] Many different characteristics are attributed to fascism by different scholars, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, authoritarianism, militarism, corporatism, collectivism[2], anti-liberalism, and anti-communism. There are numerous debates between scholars regarding the nature of fascism, and the kinds of political movements and governments that may be called fascist. For further elaboration, please see definitions of fascism and fascism and ideology. en.wikipedia.org So, fundamentalist Islamics don't truck with 1) Nationalism. Now one can make the claim that restoring the Caliphate is nationalism. But it isn't. It is religion-based, not based on anything normally associated with a nation. 2) Authoritarianism. Only in a limited sense. The Koran and Sharia law are higher authorities. Each individual mullah exerts their authority, it isn't concentrated in a single individual. 3) Militarism. Only in a limited sense. Militarism is usually associated with large, standing armies. Which the militant Muslims aren't really attuned to. 4) Corporatism. Not even the faintest trace of this. 5) Collectivism. Nor this. 6) Anti-liberalism. They definitely exhibit this. 7) Ant-communism. Not even on their radar. No, fascism isn't what they are about. However, compare this list to the goals of the Bush administration... Like I said, Islamofascism is a term used by the ignorant or morons. Which one are you?

To: jlallen who wrote (323550)	1/30/2007 2:07:27 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575173

Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces 1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition His point is that Islam is a religion (nothing to do with nationality or ethnicity) whereas fascism is a political philosophy that exalts nationality and/or ethnicity. You can't have a religion which is independent of nationality and ethnicity promoting a particular nationality and ethnicity. It don't make sense. Perhaps a better phrase is "Muslims that fail to recognize a separation between church and state". That's one problem in much of the ME - they haven't gone through that recognition yet. Any government law which appears to contradict Sharia results in someone calling for Jihad....