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To: Katelew who wrote (215499)1/29/2007 10:08:49 PM
From: one_less  Respond to of 281500
 
"I'm shocked that you or anyone, after all this time, would still buy into that crap and not see the political machinations behind it all.

Buy into what crap? You asked for evidence, I provided what is available, which is quite extensive and credible given the amount of corroboration.

Not see what? It is quite often the case that one thing can be true while something else can also be true. For instance Clinton can be an abusive person to trusting women he charms, while political organizations can exploit that circumstance for corrupt purposes. It can be true that some women enjoyed the lime light while they had also been victims of clinton. It could be true that some women have exaggerated their circumstance to get a day in the sun. It is not likely true that clinton has not taken advantage of his positions of trust in this way.



To: Katelew who wrote (215499)1/29/2007 10:25:14 PM
From: Mary Cluney  Respond to of 281500
 
Clinton is a known philanderer and not choosy about who or where. It's a really crappy character flaw that brought disgrace to his presidency.

I agree.

I liked Hillary's answer to the question today about her abilities to deal with bad and evil men.

Her silence was broken by laughter in the room.

I agree that Bill is a known philanderer and that there are sufficient numbers of women willing to have an affair with him to last several lifetimes. He does not need to resort to force.

I had a big problem with his character flaw at the time, but compared to the character flaws that exist in his successor, I now think it is not anything that necessarily prevented him from being a good president.

The character flaws in the current president have resulted in a mess that has deeply hurt our country.

I just hope Hillary gets a fair shot. She works hard. She does her homework. She is well prepared.

I have always thought Bill Clinton would never have been president without Hillary. Hillary seems to be very competent. Voters in New York appear to like her as do senior military officers.