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To: Elroy who wrote (54752)1/30/2007 11:47:22 AM
From: TimF  Respond to of 90947
 
And the new clear and hold plan should be able to show that cleared and held areas are better off than uncleared areas.

Showing improvement is complex for the reasons I've already mentioned unless the improvement is quick and massive, in which case its probably undeniable, but I think even the optimists don't expect quick massive improvement.

I think many are reluctant to push for the numbers because they think the uncertainties in the data, combined with the likely manipulation, will make them useless, at least for awhile.

Also see Sully's point
Message 23235040

In a way its just a different way of expressing my point. The numbers could be useless, or could even be manipulated to be worse then useless.



To: Elroy who wrote (54752)1/30/2007 2:32:25 PM
From: Solon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 90947
 
"If they can't show that, what's the point?"

If you can't even manage (beyond) your family how are you going to manage numbers??

I don't get your obsession with details that have no meaning for you.

TELL ME YOU HAVE A PHD IN NUMBERS OR SOMETHING??

You can assess the progress in the war on terror if your General will tell you how many giant steps or baby steps his soldiers took blowing away some asshole with a belly bomb and a mars bar??