To: TimF who wrote (323934 ) 2/1/2007 1:48:11 PM From: tejek Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573222 Wealth is created by the interactions of people over time, its not static like a pie, and redistributing it tends to make it grow slower (or at least reduce the rate of its growth). Wealth is created by the people you want to redistribute it from. They aren't taking it from others they are creating it. Take a lot of it from them and they have less incentive, and even less ability to continue to create it. The problem with your overview is that the wealth is being redistributed back to those of us who are the wealthiest. So the rest of your thesis is meaningless. There are few disincentives and many incentives for the wealthy to try and create more wealth because they are keeping most of it for themselves. And then your president comes long and gives them back even more of their wealth. The rich in this country are getting nearly a free ride. And you think that's okay.A company has a profit that equals a $100 million pie. The three principals decide to give themselves each a slice of the pie equally $33 million each. The pie is gone......the principals ate the pie themselves and did not share it with their workers. That means no pay increase for the workers. Employee pay is before profits, to the extent it comes from a "pie" that pie is revenue (and slices of the pie go to all the other costs of doing business). The $100 million is profit, not revenue.Are the principals in your hypothetical owners or executives? Quite the opposite as much of the income of the wealthy is from productive work or productive investments, the existence of which help the not-rich. Wealthy individuals don't generate jobs......corporations do. Wealthy individuals create their own companies, or invest in companies, or lend out capital to companies (buying bonds, or depositing money that gets lent out). Some do, others don't. For those that do, are you suggesting that they should get nearly a full return for their money? The Paris Hiltons aren't job magnets; they are dilettantes. Paris Hilton isn't your typical wealthy person. You might hate her but that's not even a good reason to take her wealth, let alone a good reason to heavily tax and/or regulate wealthy people in general. Of course, its a good reason......why should we try and preserve her wealth just because she was born into a rich family? Your perspective on the wealthy borders on the disturbed."Even the poorest of the poor, who don't have jobs received government transfers largely funded by the taxes on the income of the rich." The vast majority of those transfers are on the back of the middle class who also are not participating in the eating of the wealth pie. 1 - The middle class is getting wealthier, We've been through this.....they are gaining but not nearly as fast as the wealthy are.and a large section of the middle class is also part of the investing class, so they directly participate in "the eating of the wealth pie", and they indirectly benefit from the increasing productivity over time increasing their total compensation. The vast majority of stock shares are owned by the upper middle and upper classes as well as corporations.2 - If you define wealthy as upper middle class on up, then they pay the majority of the tax income. The top 10%, and perhaps even the top 5% pay the majority of income taxes. 1999 data - * The Top 1% of taxpayers pay 29% of all taxes. * The Top 5% of taxpayers pay 50% of all taxes. Please tell me why I should care?You're working your butt off and you can't make ends meet. You don't think you would feel like you are getting screwed? If there is nothing else to it, I probably wouldn't feel like I was getting screwed. Well you are unusual in more than one way. Ridiculous nonsense. No its simple truth. If you take from the wealthy then your screwing them out of something. You can argue that its justified, you can argue that it makes things better for the country as a whole, but it still doesn't change the fact that your "screwing" them. Its the price they pay for getting rich in the US. We have one of the more benevolent tax structures for the wealthy.And in fact it won't make things better for the country as a whole. Higher taxes on and regulation of the wealthy helps keep the "pie" you want to divide from growing as fast as it otherwise would, and if taken to an extreme will shrink the pie. We are no where near that possibility. So please, no worries.