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To: neolib who wrote (215950)	2/2/2007 11:17:13 AM
From: KyrosL	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>>why you think health care uniquely requires novel economic policies<< Let me try to answer that question: Because the current system we have in the US, which is the closest approximation to the free market, has failed miserably both in terms of costs and in terms of outcomes as compared to other countries. Also, the policies suggested for solving the problem are far from "novel". They are the policies that have been adopted for many decades by ALL other advanced countries and have resulted in health care delivered at much lower cost with much better outcomes, as measured objectively by overall population health statistics. By the way, you asked sometime ago for some statistics of bureaucratic overhead of Medicare compared to private insurance. Here is an article that compares the two. Private insurance administrative costs are up to 15 times greater than Medicare administrative costs. If you want more articles and studies on this, google "medicare administrative costs". news-info.wustl.edu

To: neolib who wrote (215950)	2/2/2007 1:56:55 PM
From: geode00	Respond to of 281500

Neolib, declare defeat and depart the field. I have presented you with real facts and figures which you apparently ignore in order to pursue a rather shallow debate about rightwing economic theory. You have presented no facts and figures to show how simply throwing more tax money at private insurers by mandating said purchase would have the desired effect of a good ROI on a system that delivers good health outcomes. That is, after all, THE ENTIRE POINT. The entire point of health care is not to justify some economic theory. The point of health care is HEALTH CARE FOR ALL. Period. How to provide that most efficiently is the issue, not whether it should be provided to some and not to others. You're starting off with an ideology and trying to fit everything in life into that particular cubbyhole. Your cubbyhole of freemarket theory is only THEORY. It doesn't exist in real life. I've asked you at least a half dozen times to show me a real life example of a FREE MARKET. The silence is deafening.