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To: SARMAN who wrote (215956)	2/2/2007 11:49:40 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I think Zarquawis stated strategy paid dividends. Al quaeda in iraq fanned the flames of sectarianism and replaced nationalism with sectarian/tribalism with an islamist flavor. I am not sure if iraq can survive as one country anymore. I am also not sure that the new modern shiaa/sunni emnity wont break out elsewhere in the arab world. After all saudi oil workers are shiaa, hizbolla is shiaa in the heart of sunni arabia, hamas has shiaa support and syria is in that camp though most folks there are sunni. And there is the historic rivalry between persians and arabs, between kurds and turks, between kurds and arabs, between modernists and primitive islam. Hell some folks here think clinton to be our smartest president but i bet even Bill couldnt figure this all out and come up with a coherent policy. I say cut and run--you cant worry about what you cant control and at this point as we try to put out the flames on one hand, our presence seems only to be adding fuel to the fire.

To: SARMAN who wrote (215956)	2/2/2007 12:21:03 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

We'll have to leave someday, and the Iranians will be in the local catbird's seat, with a friendly and probably closely allied Iraq right next door, no longer contending with it. Iran going nuclear sometime in the future. Israel is freaking out. The unintended consequences of the Bushie invasion make Iran the winner. Not much thought given to them before, but then, they didn't even consider the consequences of the invasion in IRAQ. Real geopolitical incompetence and lack of thought and of planning on display. Much of the "bad intel" used to egg on the invasion came from Curveball provided by Ahmed Chalabi, a man who has lived in Iran for years and has close ties with the Iranians. Some even speculate that he's an Iranian agent. foxnews.com "The Bush administration's disenchantment with its onetime favorite Iraqi client, Ahmad Chalabi (search), has centered on the explosive allegation that he and his associates may have forwarded highly classified U.S. information to the Islamist government in Iran." This has yet to be investigated thoroughly. The Bushies didn't want to KNOW the answer. Maybe the Dems will get it done.