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To: JDN who wrote (758606)2/4/2007 9:27:16 AM
From: BEEF JERKEY  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
"How do you then explain the fact that under Saddam none of this fighting among the religious sects went on?"

Saddam ruled with an iron fist and all the backing of his tribe in key positions throughout the country. I think we can now say Saddam was brutal because he had to be and because the Sunni are bastards to the Shia - thats the only way to realistically keep a lid on the sectarian violence. To an extent Saddam was a realist - he was a bastard but in Iraq one side has to dominate to keep the peace. Us trying to equalize the two sides is to an extent causing the civil war.

Saddam was only the face of the Sunni hostility towards the Shia. Because Saddam invaded Kuwait he became our enemy and we had to demonize him - which wasn't hard because he was a bastard - like most Sunni are to the Shia.

Saddam is gone and the Sunni's are still killing the Shia by the thousands a month. We totally misunderstood Iraq - we thought Saddam was the problem - when the real problem and cause of the inhumanity in Iraq is the schism between the Sunni and Shia sects.

With all our high paid brain power and great universities and CIA and Pentagon analysts how did we miss this? Now there is no good way out. Its one of the spectacular blunders of US history.

We demonized Saddam and that became the reason for the invasion of Iraq - a huge mistake. Now we are in the process of demonizing Iran.

Is it a helpful foreign policy technique to think in these Jungian archetypal ways or do we need a little more reality based thinking?



To: JDN who wrote (758606)2/4/2007 10:03:21 AM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Respond to of 769670
 
It took a murderous, iron-fisted Dictator... pushing *secular* policies to keep the religious extremists down and to hold these diverse ethnic and tribal elements together in anything like a 'nation', as we in the West regard things.

The natural state for things would be for these three old Ottoman Empire provinces to separate from each other.