To: Road Walker who wrote (325093 ) 2/8/2007 5:20:31 PM From: tejek Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576313 The research isn't just for teachers, but for all employees. And yes, it has to be easy to fire them. They found that the more people were paid (for the same position) the more they were fearful of losing their job and the harder they worked... the stick. Also, the more they were paid, the higher they valued their own work, and the better they performed (self-esteem)... the carrot. Of course the other benefits from competitively higher wages is less turn over, a more experienced work force, less time training (frees up management time), less work for human resources... This is a generalization and doesn't work for all people... as I know from first hand experience. A minority of people, if you pay them more their self-esteem goes up so much they just want more money without more production. Giving additional pay to teachers raises the expectation that the teacher will be able to make a bigger difference with his/her kids inspite of the fact that the building hasn't changed; the teaching equipment or lack there of hasn't changed; and the students haven't changed. Of course, I am all for teachers getting more pay for obvious reasons but I am not sure that the results will be what people seem to expect. It assumes doing more will get you better results. That is true when you are working in a job or learning a skill or playing a sport where you are fairly much in control of the outcome. But in teaching kids......there are two people: the teacher and the kid. If a kid doesn't want to learn or refuses to be motivated, a teacher can stand on his or her head and it won't change a damn thing. I've met only 20-30 teachers....hardly a scientific sampling. Nonetheless, I found them to be a pretty dedicated lot......esp. when you consider their salary. FWIW.