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To: Road Walker who wrote (325196)	2/8/2007 7:20:25 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1575981

JF, > These Republican fanatics that think a CEO that "earns" $250 million for failing is OK and won't pay a living wage to the teacher of their kids are nuts. LOL, I'm good: Message 23261178 > we should pay them a lot anyway because they deserve it, and because CEOs pay themselves millions of dollars even if they run their businesses into the ground. Tenchusatsu

To: Road Walker who wrote (325196)	2/8/2007 7:33:28 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575981

These Republican fanatics that think a CEO that "earns" $250 million for failing is OK "Should be legal, assuming no fraud is involved", or "is none of the government's business" doesn't equal "is perfectly OK". and won't pay a living wage to the teacher of their kids are nuts. Typically teachers do earn a living wage, even if by certain measures they may be underpaid. Who's advocating that their pay be cut?

To: Road Walker who wrote (325196)	2/9/2007 2:03:04 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575981

Did you see the article I posted later? Many school districts are looking at 50% turn over, every year. That's no way to run a successful business. Experience counts; training costs. It takes 10 years to replace an employee with 10 years experience. Its why I find all the concern over tenure rather ironic. Schools are not competing for teachers, they are competing for people. People that can work in the private or public sector. If 50% leave, they are obviously not competing. The salary is definitely a big part of it. Added to the financial burden is that school supplies needed in the classroom are in short supply. Consequently, a teacher will have to front the money if she/he wants something that is not in stock.....which makes a lousy salary seem even worse. But I think the biggest problem is the kids. More and more teachers are intimidated/even afraid of the kids. They spend a lot of time teaching us classroom mgmt. Its getting harder and harder to maintain order in the classroom. One of the universities to which I applied required that I spend thirty hours in a classroom as part of the application process. The teacher I was assigned was fairly popular with the students. She was a good teacher but her classes tended to be a little active. One day, I came in and their was a substitute teacher.....the reg. teacher was sick. Within minutes, the class started to get a little rowdy. I ducked out to go to the bathroom. When I got back, sheer bedlam had broken out. Some of the boys were 'riding' their desks like they were bucking broncos while other kids were throwing stuff around. I saw that the sub was afraid. So I helped her to get the class calmed down [even though I had no training] but to this day I was stunned at how quickly it got out of control and her reaction of fear. That's not to say that when I was a kid we wouldn't act out but it was never this far over the top. I have said before I think there may be something wrong with today's kids. ADD, ADHD and Austism are way up. In fact, they reported on NBC tonite that a new study is out that says Austism strikes 1 in 150 kids rather than 1 in 166 as previously believed. And its 4 times likely to strike boys rather than girls. Several doctors believe there are more Autistic kids now than were back 10-15 years. However, no one can figure out why the increase. I don't think a lot of teachers realize they might have trouble with the kids when they go into teaching. Again, I think that's a major contributor to turnover. I know this sounds weird.....but its almost like teachers are subjected to a popularity contest.