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To: Ilaine who wrote (217165)	2/9/2007 12:44:05 PM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

The debate shouldnt be about how perfect jews are. Trust me, we have our screw ups and some skeletons in our closets. The real problem is that SackofShit (sarman) grasps at straws to prove his points accepting any and all attacks on the Jews from holocaust denial, to zionist conspiracies, to jewish bankers, jewish media, jewish commies whatever. Sack of shit is in denial and thus i sentence sack of shit to be dumped in DE NILE at his earlier convenience.

To: Ilaine who wrote (217165)	2/9/2007 12:58:09 PM
From: SARMAN	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

zionism-israel.com guardian.150m.com

To: Ilaine who wrote (217165)	2/10/2007 6:49:43 AM
From: SARMAN	Respond to of 281500

the Zionists were not the victims but the beneficiaries. jewsagainstzionism.com >>Nazi Support of Zionism Zionism was supported by the German SS and Gestapo.[3] [4] [5] [6] Hitler himself personally supported Zionism.[7] [8] During the 1930’s, in cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some 40 camps throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. As late as 1942 Zionists operated at least one of these officially authorized “Kibbutz” training camps[9] over which flew the blue and white banner which would one day be adopted as the national flag of “Israel”.[10] The Transfer Agreement (which promoted the emigration of German Jews to Palestine) implemented in 1933 and abandoned at the beginning of WWII is an important example of the cooperation between Hitler’s Germany and international Zionism. [11] Through this agreement, Hitler’s Third Reich did more than any other government during the 1930’s to support Jewish development in Palestine and further the Zionist goals. Hitler and the Zionists had a common goal: to create a world Jewish Ghetto as a solution to the Jewish Question. The Transfer Agreement (which promoted the emigration of German Jews to Palestine) implemented in 1933 and abandoned at the beginning of WWII is an important example of the cooperation between Hitler’s Germany and international Zionism. [11] Through this agreement, Hitler’s Third Reich did more than any other government during the 1930’s to support Jewish development in Palestine and further the Zionist goals. Hitler and the Zionists had a common goal: to create a world Jewish Ghetto as a solution to the Jewish Question. The Zionist so-called “World Jewish Congress” declared war on the country of Germany,[12] [13] knowing that it would affect their Jewish brothers residing in that country who would be left without protection. When others tried to help them escape to other countries, the Zionist movement took actions which caused those countries to lock their doors to Jewish immigration (read more in the books, “Perfidy” and “Min Hametzer”). As a result of the Zionist influence five ships of Jewish refugees from Germany arriving in the United States were turned back to the gas chambers. The fundamental aim of the Zionist movement has been not to save Jewish lives but to create a “Jewish state” in Palestine. On December 7, 1938, Ben Gurion, the first head of the Zionist ‘state of Israel’ declared “If I knew it was possible to save all the children in Germany by taking them to England, and only half of the children by taking them to Eretz Israel, I would choose the second solution. For we must take into account not only the lives of these children but also the history of the people of Israel.”[14] On August 31, 1949, Ben Gurion stated: “Although we have realized our dream of creating a Jewish State, we are only at the beginning. There are still only 900,000 Jews in Israel, whereas the majority of the Jewish people still remains abroad. Our future task is to bring all the Jews to Israel.”