To: Srexley who wrote (759166 ) 2/12/2007 11:44:14 PM From: DuckTapeSunroof Respond to of 769670 I guess my main points are that our *primary* concerns OUGHT to be the strategic objectives of the US... (and the 'West', and Democracy/Capitalism/rule-of-law, etc., in general), and that are far SMARTER ways of going about securing our long-term national goals then what we've been seeing. 'Iraq', for example, is a highly artificial 'nation' --- just lines drawn on a map by a drunken Churchill and Lawrence of Arabia one afternoon over many drinks really, when they pasted together three different & dissimilar Ottoman Empire provinces in an effort to craft a weak and internally divided 'nation' that would be easy for Britain to dominate... and even in that desire the Brits failed. It has only managed to hold together by application of Dictatorial power... and suppression of most of the native population by power-wielding minorities. All peoples have the Democratic right of self-determination, so if Shiites/Kurds/Sunnis, etc., desire to manage their own affairs in their own political jurisdictions... then they have that implicit right, and we should not stand in their way. Furthermore --- while we should *not* to 'rooting for' war for *any* peoples --- never-the-less we stand to benefit greatly if Sunni and Shia extremists are pitted against each other over the battleground of an 'Iraqi' civil war, and if the desires for regional domination and or religious orthodoxy by the corrupt Saudi Arabian Monarchs & fellow Gulf Sunnis are *tempered* by war with the Persians and their fellow-traveling Shiites of Iraq. We, and the West in general, stand to benefit from all this greatly... if we first just step back from the crossfire, and stop playing 'Uncle Sucker'.