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To: E. Charters who wrote (32751)	2/13/2007 4:58:52 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 78421

That was an interesting post EC. My personal feeling is that we must know what kind of animal we are, so we can protect ourselves from ourselves e.g. instincts. What are our instincts? We know more about the Uganda Kob and stickleback than we do about our animal selves. When I was majoring in psychology in the 60's, they never even used the word instinct. They called them drives or other euphamistic words. The problem of course occured because of religion i.e. if god put us here we wouldn't have instincts(like animals do-lol). The naked ape: we now know a baby can recognize 7 facial expressions at birth (nstinctively-lol). And there are tons of other instincts from the jungle, we need to guard against in modern civilzation, but first we need to identify them. For instance, the startle response when we encounters a snake, or putting a baby in a dark room by itself until it cries itself asleep, which is nuts in my opinion, or not giving a child enough touch. For millions of years we huddled by the fire or in a cave. The mother would hold the baby for the first few years all the time. I think a baby insinctively knows that if it is away from the mother and away from the tribe and in the dark, or the fire, it is in danger (from wild animals) as we were for millions of years. They are crying because they instinctively feel they are in danger! The most dreamed dream around the world is of being chased. We were chased for millions of years by wild animals. I raised my children letting them show me what their needs were and then meeting them. I slept with both kids until about 7 and then they had enough. EC: "indeed that people are so brainwashed that they accept all the Roman models of logic which pretend to disavow the deep psychological aberrance which makes mockery of the supposed independent and disinterested view of arbitrators of government and law. At first these principles are eminently logical and propagandistically presentable, so they only fall apart as BF Skinner, Allen Ginsberg and Jim Morrison in modern times demonstrated so convincingly, when we do a deeper psychological analysis of the motivation and the drivers of power.