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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (325794)	2/13/2007 11:51:23 PM
From: Elroy	Respond to of 1576159

> And if you believe all men are created equal why do you believe Jews from Russia are entitled to Israeli citizenship while non-Jews from Gaza are not? That's a separate issue. It's obvious the forces opposing Israel's existence would not change their position if Israel started accepting a more "politically-correct" immigration policy. I disagree, at least as far as American support for Israel is concerned. Their biased immigration policy IS the issue, and IS the divisive factor which makes "peace" virtually impossible EVER. If they were based on an inclusive policy (all people are equal and entitled to the rights of citizenship) then eventually they could just integrate all the Pal refugess and have one unified state. As long as they are an EXCLUSIVE nation (for the Jews, and not for the non-Jews), the non-Jews in the neighborhood are NEVER going to accept them. Thus, we have never ending warfare. Would you accept it if Utah refused to let non-Mormons move to Utah and refused to let non-Mormons that are already there buy land, or would you send in the national guard to blow the hell out of those crazy Mormons that attempted to implement that offensive policy? It's almost the exact same thing, if Utah had better weapons.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (325794)	2/14/2007 12:20:32 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576159

Well, the country doesn't even have clearly defined borders at the moment, so that's a pretty unclear statement. Who's fault is that? Maybe those who tried to take Israel by force in 1967 should realize that they are the losers. Fault? Trying to blame one side in that region is a waste of time. Both sides have mucked up the other. Why you choose one side over the other is the question. Over the long term, you can advocate the complete destruction of one of the sides (something Israel would likely lose, since its 6 million versus 1 billion), or you can advocate reconciliation and unification of the two sides. Muslims and Jews (and Hindis and Christians and Bhuddists) live together as equals in peace in America, there is no inherent reason that they can't do the same in the "holy land".