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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (325861)2/14/2007 5:57:02 AM
From: Elroy  Respond to of 1575605
 
You seem to think that most of the responsibility lies with Israel and America. I don't believe that to be the case.

Nope, I've proposed a way to bring peace to the region without assigning blame or responsibility. A way that Americans should support since it is based on equality of people regardless of their religion/race, as America is based on equality of people.

I think there are plenty of other ways peace can theoreteically be achieved. If I were Palestinian or Arab, I wouldn't give a damn about any Al Aqsa mosque, and instead would work on building an economy, improving schools and creating the "all men created equal" country I am describing to you in the occuppied territories, and every day point out how my new country accepts everyone regardless of race/creed while pointinbg out that my neighbor Israel accepts only Jews. I would try to become the US's ally, pointing out how my country is more akin to the US than ethnic state Israel.

But I'm not a Pal refugee, I don't live near there (there are a few countries between them and me at the moment), and I'm not even a stakeholder being neither a Muslim nor a Jew. And the people that do live there don't seem to want to do that, so who cares what I would do? I'm just trying to present what makes sense from an uninvolved outsider's perspective.

But it has little to do with assigning blame or assigning responsibility. It's just a proposed solution based on America's values of equal rights. It works in the USA where Muslims and Jews live together in peace and harmony, it could work there, no matter who is to blame for the current mess.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (325861)2/14/2007 6:02:31 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575605
 

Elroy, Zeev Hed (of Zeev's Turnips) made a few good posts on the subject of Israel's immigration policy. He mentioned the "right of return" and how fallacious the argument is, and basically concluded that it's up to the Palestinians to decide whether they want to earn the peace and trust that they say they desire.


Does he believe that a Jew from Argentina should be given Israeli citizenship while a non-Jew from Gaza should not?