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To: jlallen who wrote (325872)2/14/2007 10:36:09 AM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573927
 
Utah gunman, 18, was Muslim from Bosnia
Killed 5 in crowded shopping mall before being gunned down
February 13, 2007
worldnetdaily.com

The 18-year-old gunman who killed five people in a crowded Utah shopping mall was a Bosnian Muslim refugee who was prepared to kill many more, say investigators.

An off-duty police officer having an early Valentine's Day dinner with his wife was credited today with cornering Sulejmen Talovic, exchanging fire with him until other officers arrived to shoot and kill the gunman.

The trench-coated teenager wanted to "to kill a large number of people" and probably would have killed many more if not for the off-duty officer, Police Chief Chris Burbank said.

A friend said Talovic was from the war-torn country of Bosnia and that the trauma he experienced while growing up may have led to him snapping for some reason.

Ken Hammond, an off-duty officer from Ogden, north of Salt Lake City, jumped up from his seat at a restaurant after hearing gunfire and cornered the gunman, exchanging fire with him until other officers arrived, Burbank said.

"There is no question that his quick actions saved the lives of numerous other people," the police chief said.

Police said it was not immediately clear who fired the shot that killed Talovic.

Talovic had a backpack full of ammunition, a shotgun and a .38-caliber pistol, police said. Investigators knew little about Talovic, except than he lived in Salt Lake City with his mother, the chief said. He was enrolled in numerous city schools before withdrawing in 2004, the school district said. Initially, police refused to release his name or any information about his background.

Talovic drove to the Trolley Square shopping center – a century-old former trolley barn with winding hallways, brick floors and wrought-iron balconies, and immediately killed two people, followed by a third victim as he came through a door, Burbank said. Five other people were then shot in a gift shop, he said.

Four people who were wounded remained hospitalized today, two in critical condition, two in serious.

Outside the mall, candles and flowers were left as memorials to the victims.

Hammond's boss, Ogden Police Chief Jon Greiner, said the state Senate wants to honor him.

"Thank goodness he was there," said Greiner, who is also a state senator. "You don't want to ever say it's good we were there and killed somebody, but it's probably good someone was there."

Accountant Jeff Barlow was on a date at a restaurant when he looked outside and saw the gunman firing from the hip.

"I thought it was some kind of joke – some kind of movie or stunt," Barlow said. "I didn't believe it was happening. And then I saw a man go down in a courtyard. I realized this was serious. These are real bullets flying around."

David Dean, who owns a greeting-card store at the mall, said three or four people died inside his store, which was packed with Valentine's Day shoppers.



To: jlallen who wrote (325872)2/14/2007 2:11:03 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573927
 
February 14, 2007, 11:13 am

War at Home: The Ad Wars Begin Anew

By Kate Phillips

This just fell into our mailbox this morning as another sign that as early as it is, the situation in Iraq has ramifications for senators and representatives up for re-election in 2008

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee announced today that it intends to begin on Friday running newspaper ads against two Republican senators, John Sununu of New Hampshire and Gordon Smith of Oregon. Both joined the majority of Republicans in the Senate to block a debate and vote on the Warner-Levin compromise resolution opposing the administration’s Iraq strategy.

A headline over a picture of two soldiers reads:
They have to follow Bush’s orders. Senator Smith Doesn’t.


(The same goes for an ad against Senator Sununu.)

In addition, several anti-war groups promise to start their own ad campaigns against those two senators and others. Tom Mazzie, head of Americans Against Escalation of the War in Iraq, and former Representative Tom Andrews of the Win Without War Coalition, told The Politico that they both intend to begin multi-million dollar ad campaigns and grassroots lobbying efforts.

Mr. Mazzie said his group planned to spend $6.5 million on a television ad campaign.

The debate in the House resumed this morning, amid President Bush’s upcoming news conference.

Representative Pete Hoekstra, co-author of a Republican letter urging his fellow members to broaden the debate against the resolution to include the “war on terrorism,” again this morning derided the resolution as a “stay-the-course” statement.

Following a bit later, Republican Kay Granger of Texas called the bill “a resolution of irresolution.” She said it was ”
at best confusing, at worst immoral. It pledges to support the troops in the field but washes its hands of what they’re doing. We can’t have it both ways.”

The Democratic majority expects the measure to pass on Friday, with perhaps two dozen or more Republicans joining them.

thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com



To: jlallen who wrote (325872)2/14/2007 5:52:50 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573927
 
That's not what the General said...

Really? Then what did he say?