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To: Brasco One who wrote (2810)	2/15/2007 12:38:46 PM
From: uu	Respond to of 2926

You see it is very simple... 1) They are in this world to die to go to paradise. 2) So when they are alive they do anything to either be killed or to kill to go to paradise. 3) However once they are dead, their fellow mulsims mourn and cry for them as why they died! :) One would think that once they are dead and gone, their fellow mulsim friends and family would celebrate and be happy for them (after all they are now in paradise as they had always wanted to be having wild orgies with the 72 virgins that are set aside for them), but instead they mourn for them in the most horrific manners such as beating themselves, putting mud over their head, cry out loud, curse everyone, and then in revenge they go and either kill more of their fellow Mulsims (or does not matter... anything that moves), and/or kill themselves. And the whole cycle begins again. And so it is rather a very contradictory philisophy that I for one could not understand.

To: Brasco One who wrote (2810)	2/16/2007 8:07:12 AM
From: whenitgoesup	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2926

Probably the same reason that Protestants and Catholics have killed each other in Ireland until recently, and down thru the centuries. Who knows why they would want to kill their fellow Christians? After all, "Thou shall not kill"?

To: Brasco One who wrote (2810)	2/20/2007 8:21:55 AM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2926

Donny..."addi, can you let us know why the Sunnis have a long history of killing and hating their own Muslim brothers the Shiites??"..... This may help explain some of the why's, and thanks to George they are murdering more of their own kind than us infidels. IMO bottom line is they just love to kill something. London-Based Syrian-Born Historian Mahmoud Al-Sayyed Al-Dugheim on Al-Jazeera: Iran Established Global Shiite Government, Operating in Accordance with the Protocols of the Mullahs of Qom, to Annihilate the Sunnis February 16, 2007 memri.org The following are excerpts from an interview with Syrian-born historian Mahmoud Al-Sayyed Al-Dugheim, which aired on Al-Jazeera TV on January 30, 2007. TO VIEW THIS CLIP: memritv.org. Mahmoud Al-Sayyed Al-Dugheim: "We consider the Zionist plan to be dangerous to the Arab nation, but even more dangerous is the Safavid Sassanian Iranian plan to restore the Empire of Cyrus, which would range from Greece to Egypt, and the Arabian Peninsula, in addition to other regions. The Zionist plan was unable to penetrate the ranks of Islamic unity, the way the Safavid Iranian plan did. The collaborators with the Zionists throughout the Arab and Islamic world are too ashamed to reveal themselves, while the collaborators with the Sassanian Safavid plan boast about it in public. Wasn't it one of their leaders who said yesterday: 'We are a Lebanon in Iran, and an Iran in Lebanon?'" [...] "While the Zionist plan targets Jerusalem, which is holy to us, the Safavid plan targets Mecca and Al-Madina. If you go back to their books - which they do not mention in the media, yet these books exist and are accepted by them - they claim that their Hidden Imam will come to Mecca and Al-Madina, destroy the Al-Haram Mosque and the Mosque of the Prophet, and dig in the graves of Abu Bakr and Omar and burn them both, and then he will command the wind to blow them away. He will also dig in the grave of Aisha, the Mother of the Believers, and will execute her. All this is part of their plan." [...] "The Shah was most definitely one of the sworn enemies of the Arabs, but he did not legislate a law to persecute the Sunni Muslims, who constitute one-third of the Iranian population. The new Iranian constitution persecutes Sunni Muslims in Iran, while it gives constitutional rights to the Zoroastrians, the Jews, and the Christians. This constitution denies the Sunnis these rights. There is no Sunni mosque in Tehran, even though there are over two million Sunni Muslims there." [...] "All these actions are part of the 50-year plan of the Protocols of the Mullahs of Qom. This plan has been published and is well known. It aims to infiltrate the Sunni Muslim countries, to annihilate them, and to sow civil strife between the ruler and his subjects, all within fifty years." [...] "Listen to the following secret communiqué: 'At the command and with the guidance of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Guide of the Islamic Revolution in Iran, and under the title 'The Shi'a of Ali Are Victorious,' the extended conference of the world's Shiites was held in the holy city of Qom. It was attended by the leaders of all Shiite parties and religious authorities. The conference decided that a global organization must be established to annihilate the people who are left, to examine and analyze the current regional situation, to build a military force, to infiltrate governmental institutions through the women's organizations everywhere, and then to infiltrate intelligence agencies, and to finish off the Sunni leaders, even by assassination.' This is the plan of the Hashashin, which still exists. "There is a fatwa by their imams and religious authorities, which permits the trading and planting of hashish, in order to profit and to cover up their crimes." [...] "While the American target is economic oil, the Iranian Persian goal is to massacre the Arabs, as is evident in all their writings."

To: Brasco One who wrote (2810)	3/29/2007 8:45:03 AM
From: Jerome	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2926

>>>can you let us know why the Sunnis have a long history of killing and hating their own Muslim brothers the Shiites?? <<< these are two contradictory schisms. we have nothing comparable to this western religions. This is not a live and let live situation. That why Bush's idea of a peaceful democracy to Iraq is rubbish. If a majority rules in a Democracy, then it means that the majority can eliminate the minority. (in Iraq) The Sunni's have two choices in Iraq...1) they can migrate out of the country (to Iran or Syria). 2) They can intensify the civil war in Iraq, with (military) help from other Sunnis. These problems were well known when Iraq was formed into a geographic country by the British after WW1. Iraq used to be part of the Ottoman empire.