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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: average joe who wrote (9526)	2/15/2007 7:49:26 AM
From: Tom Clarke	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 36917

>>If the Globalwarmingists are going to start acting like a church, I think they and their beliefs should be treated like a church and respected (or disrespected) like a church and most importantly, they’re going to have to stay out of politics, just like the churches. When I read this crap about Carbon Off-Setting I had precisely the same thought as Instapundit: this is like buying indulgences for sin (or actually to cut time in purgatory, but let’s not get into that just now). Global Warming is the greatest crisis the earth has ever seen! It’s going to kill us all! Everyone must change the way they live their lives, especially Americans!!! But not the rich Americans. They can just, you know…plant some trees…send some low-wattage lightbulbs to other sinners to get them to mend their ways, and then they’re “carbon neutral!” They can continue to fly their private jets, air-condition their 9,000 square foot homes and six car garages, and so forth. It’s all about how much you care, you see. Global Warming hysteria has all the earmarks of a religion. It has mythology. It has a savior (Al Gore!). It has sin, and it has easy and harsh penances (”plant trees” for the rich, renunciation and sacrifice for the rest of us). And it has an end-of-the-world scenario. Wow. And in just a very short time - nothing like 2,000 years - The Church of Eco-Hysteria “Globalwarmingists” have even managed to become extreme and repressive toward unbelievers. Hmmmmm…JUST like they accuse the “Christianists” of being. They don’t want their orthodoxy challenged at all, but that’s the problem when you form a religion. Someone is always going to challenge it. What was it St. Paul said, “all I hate, I am become…” The eco-church of Global Warming is becoming everything it purports to hate! It’s a genuine religion, after all. And perhaps in bloggers it will find its many Martin Luther(s). So…the “super concerned” about global warming, who want to beat everyone else up with their new religion (or, if possible, at least get us lined up and goose-stepping, or fired from our jobs for not going along), have all sorts of concerns about leaving carbon footprints on poor Gaia (who is a much stronger babe than they give her credit for) and they want laws enacted and additional taxes, punishment for eco-sinning…but they don’t want to have to actually participate in all that conservation junk. Hmmmm…seems to me if “carbon-offsetting” can effectively balance out one rich guy’s energy usage, then why can’t it be extrapolated into something larger, but still balanced? America uses lots of energy? America will plant trees and give other countries florescent lightbulbs! China pollutes the world with barely a regulation? Well, let’s regulate China and get her to plant some flowers. Let’s EVERYONE plant stuff, so that Valentine’s Day does not destroy the earth! theanchoressonline.com

To: average joe who wrote (9526)	2/15/2007 9:46:19 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 36917

Weak. Very weak. It's what you get when you are morally and intellectually bankrupt. After USA Today Issues Correction, Fox Host Repeats Smears Against Gore Earlier this month, Peter Schweizer published a hit piece on Al Gore’s environmental habits. (Schweizer works at the Hoover Institute which has received nearly $300,000 from Exxon Mobile since 1998.) It was an obvious attempt to discredit Gore’s efforts to combat the threat of global warming. The problem was the piece was inaccurate and USA today was forced to print a correction. That didn’t stop Rich Lowry, filling in for Sean Hannity, to repeat Schweizer’s false claims on Fox after the correction was printed. Lowry also took the liberty to add some new smears. Watch it: Here are the facts: 1. Gore does not receive royalties from a zinc mine. From the USA today correction: “In a column that appeared Aug. 10 on the Forum Page, writer Peter Schweizer inaccurately stated that former vice president Al Gore receives royalties from a zinc mine on his property in Tennessee despite his environmental advocacy…the mine was closed in 2003.” 2. Gore has never owned any Occidental Petroleum stock. His father worked for the company for several years and his parents used to own some stock. All of it was sold years ago. 3. Gore pays for his own carbon off-sets. Parmount is also purchasing off-sets above and beyond what Gore is doing individually. thinkprogress.org ===========