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To: steve harris who wrote (326212)	2/18/2007 1:10:18 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1575765

But what do you think would happen if the UN implemented your idea? That Israel and the Palestinian territories were under one elected government? I think you would have a disaster. Well, here's the entire plan laid out again, take note that the implementation of the united secular Pasreal which grants equality to Jews, Muslims and whoever gets to be a citizen takes place over a ~20 year timeframe. It's not like the Pal refugees get to vote tomorrow. Message 23214027 How to implement this new land - grant citizenship to the creme de la creme of the Pal refugees each year over a 20 year period, slowly integrating them into the new country. The new Pal refugees which become Pasreal citizen get an initial welcome package of grants, discount loans, stuff to help them to get up to speed with society. Pal refugees which develop skills, get educated, display talents, or are just wealthy will get citzenship in Pasrael earlier than those that are unproductive useless unemployed sacks. Someone said that Barak granted ~150k Pal refuguees Israeli citizenship in the late 1990s. I don't think they are all running around killing Jews in Israel. That goes to show that a Pal refugee granted equal rights under the law is going to be a better fellow neighbor than one denied those rights. Your idea is great, but I don't think it would work based upon the hate and killings already occurring on both sides. I agree the implementation period will be no walk in the park, but the passage of time reduces hatred. As the current generations that have known the hellish relations between Pal-Israeli for years die off, the incentive to hate and kill your neighbor because he isn't like you declines. We get along fine with Germans and Japanese today, although that probably seemed unimaginable in 1943. Over the long run a foundation of a nation that accepts other religions/ethnicities as equals has a much greater chance for peace than one which starts from the basis of 'this land is for Jews, and not for non-Jews'. You're probably NEVER going to get the non-Jews in the region to accept that, so the long term prospects from that approach are poor. And the entire world can get behind the idea of a region where ethnicity and religion are treated equally, instead of forcing outsiders to choose one of the two sides. Any country opposed to the idea of equality in the holy land becomes the enemy for obvious reasons. They would become the promoter of war, rather than peace. Wars end when there is a winner. That's the only solution I see. Egypt made peace with Israel and it cost Sadat his life. The other Arab nations should also. That approach doesn't favor the existence of Israel over the long term. There are 6 million of them, and 250 million Arabs against them, and Jerusalem being inside Israel will force the Arabs to fight the war off and on forever, or give up their religion. What do you think are the chances of that? It's possible, but unlikely.