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To: DDB_WO who wrote (226358)	2/19/2007 7:32:50 AM
From: paarl99	Respond to of 275872

last line to that piece.... ///// We are seeing a rapid forced march here between these two," Enderle says, "and whoever runs out of steam first is screwed." well put !!!! Paarl

To: DDB_WO who wrote (226358)	2/19/2007 8:11:35 AM
From: Sarmad Y. Hermiz	Respond to of 275872

>> "Early testing on prototypes shows 42 percent greater performance than Intel's Clovertown on some kinds of computer calculations known as floating-point operations that are used heavily in generating computer images and graphics." << Has AMD or anyone else said something like "testing on prototypes" ? I thought so far the performance claims were based on modeling and simulation ? I am not casting doubt on the performance claim. I am just wondering if this is a new indication that the chip is ready for launch ? There being prototypes being tested. And they meet the design goal performance (and power and heat).

To: DDB_WO who wrote (226358)	2/19/2007 8:40:37 AM
From: j3pflynn	Respond to of 275872

DDB-WO - Interesting that the team(s) working on next gen chips are totally separate, geographically as well as staff-wise. These days, AMD has more design engineers working on more projects. Barcelona involved hundreds of AMD engineers in Austin who worked on Opteron or on its predecessor, Athlon. The Sunnyvale engineering team isn't available because it is hard at work on other next-generation chips.

To: DDB_WO who wrote (226358)	2/19/2007 2:00:35 PM
From: Ali Chen	Respond to of 275872

"on some kinds of computer calculations" What about "other kinds" of calculations? If you compare best Opterons with Core2 in individual SPEC performance benchmarks, Opteron loses in each and every of them, and by substantial margins, correct me if I am wrong. There is no reason in a chip that can do "some kinds" but can't competitively do "other kinds". "The outcome of the bet is still several months away, but the marketing campaign already has begun." I think that's the keyword, "marketing campaign", which always goes ahead of real things in accord with typical business plans. So far there is little indication that theoretical performance expectations are on the way to materialization. One should only hope that AMD knows what they are doing. On the bright side (if one can call it bright), both companies seem to suffer from lack of vision on essential performance issues. If people remember, it took _four_ design generations for Intel to make their "Core" to perform at competitive level: Bainas, Dothan, Yonah, and finally Woodcrest/Clovertown (or whatever their recent core is called). So, the hope is still there for AMD. Cheers, - Ali