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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (219622)2/19/2007 7:47:24 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I disagree. Bush's decision about Iraq was not made because of the CIA intel. He may have relied on some CIA intel to sell it (while disregarding caveats) but that's hardly what you seem to be saying.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (219622)2/19/2007 9:28:27 PM
From: Win Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
OK, since you insist on continuing to post Mylroie-type "analysis" as if it had something to do with reality, I will follow up. Wikipedia has this nice little bit on one of Mylroie's compelling pieces of "evidence":

After September 11th, former Director of Central Intelligence James Woolsey was provided a government jet and FBI staff to investigate Mylroie's claim that Basit and Yousef were different people. Newsweek reported: "The idea behind the mission was to check fingerprints on file in Swansea, Wales, where Basit had once gone to school, and compare them to the fingerprints of the Ramzi Yousef in prison. ... Justice Department officials tell 'Newsweek that the results of the Woolsey mission were exactly what the FBI had predicted: that the fingerprints were in fact identical. After the match was made, FBI officials assumed at the time that it had put the Mylroie theory to rest."[4] Mylroie writes that, "Indeed, according to Britain's Guardian newspaper, latent fingerprints lifted from material Mr. [Basit] Karim left at Swansea bear 'no resemblance' to Yousef's prints. They are two different people."[5] en.wikipedia.org

So apparently the FBI was in on the conspiracy against poor Cheney the victim also. Wikipedia links this Peter Bergen article, which goes into gory detail. There's way too many juicy parts, I'll just quote a bit which seems like something KLP would find inspiring, along with a little summary of "intelligence", Mylroie style.

At the end of the interview, Mylroie, who exudes a slightly frazzled, batty air, started getting visibly agitated, her finger jabbing at the camera and her voice rising to a yell as she outlined the following apocalyptic scenario: "Now I'm going to tell you something, OK, and I want all Canada to understand, I want you to understand the consequences of the cynicism of people like Peter. There is a very acute chance as we go to war that Saddam will use biological agents as revenge against Americans, that there will be anthrax in the United States and there will be smallpox in the United States. Are you in Canada prepared for Americans who have smallpox and do not know it crossing the border and bringing that into Canada?"

This kind of hysterical hyperbole is emblematic of Mylroie's method, which is to never let the facts get in the way of her monomaniacal certainties. In the case of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, she has said that Terry Nichols, one of the plotters, was in league with Ramzi Yousef. Richard Matsch, the veteran federal judge who presided over the Oklahoma City bombing case, ruled any version of this theory to be inadmissible at trial. Mylroie implicates Iraq in the 1996 bombing of a U.S. military facility in Saudi Arabia which killed 19 U.S. servicemen. In 2001, a grand jury returned indictments in that case against members of Saudi Hezbollah, a group with ties not to Iraq, but Iran. Mylroie suggests that the attacks on two U.S. embassies in Africa in 1998 might have been "the work of both bin Laden and Iraq." An overseas investigation unprecedented in scope did not uncover any such connection. Mylroie has written that the crash of TWA flight 800 into Long Island Sound in 1996 likely was an Iraqi plot. A two-year investigation by the National Tran-sportation Safety Board ruled it was an accident. According to Mylroie, Iraq supplied the bomb-making expertise for the attack which killed 17 U.S. sailors on the USS Cole in Yemen in 2000. No American law enforcement official has made that claim. Mylroie blames Iraq for the post-9/11 anthrax attacks around the United States. Marilyn Thompson, The Washington Post's investigations editor, who has written an authoritative book on those attacks, says, "The F.B.I. has essentially dismissed this theory and says there is no evidence to support it." A U.S. counter-terrorism official remarked: "Mylroie probably thinks the Washington sniper was an Iraqi."
washingtonmonthly.com

I'm sure you're quite familiar with this particular trove of "intelligence", but if any readers want to see what Mylroie has been up to the last 20 years or so, there's this: lauriemylroie.com She sure didn't waste any time after 9/11 , see lauriemylroie.com . More from the horse's mouth at pbs.org , the girl sure did get around. There's another really neat story out there, about Wolfowitz, I think, wanting to get some guy in prison from WTCI shipped overseas so they could torture him to "confirm" some Mylroie theory or other, but that'll have to wait.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (219622)2/19/2007 10:04:32 PM
From: Win Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I can't even follow what he's going on about "Plamegate" now.

Ewww, I missed that part. I will explain it once again for the purposely obtuse. It all comes from this "analysis".

The whole "Plamegate" affair is only intelligible as a very successful and not so covert action against the Bush White in general and Dick Cheney in particular. Message 23296590

It's all a conspiracy, and Cheney's the victim. You just got to believe.