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To: Garden Rose who wrote (219706)2/20/2007 5:52:57 AM
From: mistermj  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
The greatest diplomatic technique in the history of the world.

"We weren't kidding in '45...and we aint kidding now."

The UN my ass.

Once the "great" wars were part of the landscape, the UN was created as a world body to checkmate the phenomena. And, it has done quite a good job.....so far.




To: Garden Rose who wrote (219706)2/20/2007 9:47:05 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Because in the 19th century wars were confined regionally as had been the case for centuries.
If there is an SI-wide contest for stupidest comment, you just won. There isn't though. Willing entering you in "Thread Morons" do?

Alexander, in the 4th century BC, started from the Balkans (Macedonia) and fought his way to India, where he died. Some "regional war" THAT was! The Romans conquered all of southern Europe, a large part of the ME (including Palestine, which was made the Roman province of Judea) and all of Africa north of the Sahara. THEY certainly were confined, weren't they?

Ever hear of the Seven Years War? Known over here as the French and Indian War? 1754-1763?
The Seven Years' War, 1756-63, was the first global war.
canadianencyclopedia.ca
It was fought all through Europe, in the Americas (Quebec became a British possession as a result), and had battles in Asia, Africa, and the Caribbean..
The Seven Years' War began when a combined French-First Peoples force expelled British colonists from the Ohio valley in 1754. This local clash quickly escalated into a world war. Beginning in 1755, Britain and France sent thousands of professional soldiers to North America. A year later, hostilities spread to Europe and both nations formally declared war. By 1759, war raged in Africa, Asia, Europe, North America, and the Caribbean, and Quebec was under attack by a British fleet and army.
civilization.ca
IT could make a good claim to be the first world war. Except for the cases cited above, millenia before.

Are you simply ignorant or just plain stubborn? Ignorance is curable.

"New phase of development", my ***. Obviously the technology to fight wars over large distances existed millenia before the idea of the UN was even a dream. And "good job", my ***. There has been plenty of wars since 1948. And the US and USSR didn't nuke each other because they were afraid of the UN. The UN would be the least of their problems after a major nuclear exchange. They didn't have one because of fear of the consequences.

mjfdl's reply was pretty good too.

And you have yet to make a decent reply to either point in this:
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How DID that century without a world war, but with the capability (clearly shown above to have happened) to have one happen without the UN?