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To: Cyprian who wrote (14477)2/22/2007 8:20:00 AM
From: sea_urchin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 22250
 
Cyprian > Judaism is inherently Zionist.

Of course. Judaism is ONLY about Zionism but what is important is the manner in which Zion is or was to be achieved. Today's Zionists are imposters -- they gained access to the Promised Land by fraud, theft and war, something which THEIR religious texts expressly prohibited. This has nothing to do with belief in God or anything like that. It has only to do with compliance with the rules they have professed to abide by.

> Groups like Neturei Karta are not anti-Zionist as they falsely claim. They simply claim that Jews must not gather themselves into Zion, but rather that they should wait for the times of their Mashiach, (i.e. the Antichrist) to gather them, instead.

That's correct. The Neturei Karta serve to define the two forms of JEWISH Zionism, not Zionism as you understand it.

> Just because someone calls himself a Christian doesn't make it so. Is Bush a Christian? Of course not. Just because someone calls himself Orthodox doesn't make it so either.
Most of the "bishops" in the world calling themselves Orthodox these days have departed from the Church and are in apostasy.

What you are talking about here are rules -- the rules which the individual has agreed to abide by. However, you are also saying there is only one correct set of rules, I am saying there are many sets of rules, probably all incorrect, but the individual must be judged by the rules he chooses to abide by and not by anyone else's set.