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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (220909)	2/25/2007 1:56:44 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Elroy, why do you keep going on about "evenhandedness"? You think Hizbullah wants evenhandedness? No way! they want the Jews dead and Israel gone. They say so every day. Well, that's one of the problems with discussing this Pasreal idea here - we have those opposed because they support Israel and think the Muslims will fail to accept equality (you), we have those indifferent to either side but throwing out the idea because it sounds like a good one (me), but we don't have any from the Pal side to express their opinions. Sarman, who I think is Muslim, says the Pasreal plan would work, and he's about all we got in the discussion from the "their" side of the stage. It would be more interesting if there was some Hizbullah (or at least average Pal refugee) US tech stock investor that happened to wander over here and express their views, and without that the conversation sort of is lacking one of the involved parties.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (220909)	2/25/2007 1:59:57 AM
From: kumar	Respond to of 281500

No way! they want the Jews dead and Israel gone. They say so every day. one does not measure history in days - its measured in decades or centuries. there is no "Big Mac Large fries large coke right now" solution for these things.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (220909)	2/25/2007 2:04:47 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

As for the subject of the article, I think it is spot on. The Arabs (and Persians) will not accept a Jewish nation where Israel is located, ever, just as America would not accept a Communist American homeland were it forced on us in the state of Maryland in 1948, right next to DC. The Arabs may (perhaps, I have no proof, but it intuitively makes sense) accept a multi-cultural Pasreal. Thus support for Israel is support for endless war, while progress for the idea of Pasreal has the possibility of both bringing peace, and setting an example for the rest of the Arab world of how to separate church and state, and live peacefully among other people, something the sooner they do they better. You say a multi-cultural Arabia will never work. I say multicutluralism works in America (it must), it could work in Pasreal and it could work in Lebanon with the expulsion of Hezbollah. Unfortunately we lack the Arab SI poster's opinion on the topic,since most of SI is western tech stock investors (not many Pal refugees here, I assume).