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To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (5095)	2/25/2007 12:28:48 PM
From: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck	Respond to of 20106

Islam is a caustic blend of paganism and twisted Bible stories. Muhammad, its lone prophet, conceived his religion to satiate his lust for power, sex, and money. He was a terrorist. And if you think these conclusions are shocking, wait until you see the evidence. Critics of Prophet of Doom claim it is offensive, hatemongering, and unnecessarily violent. We agree - but we didn't write those parts. They came directly from Islam's scriptures. Over the course of these pages, we quote from most every surah in the Qur'an - putting each verse in the context of Muhammad's life by quoting vociferously from Islam's most trusted sources. prophetofdoom.net

To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (5095)	2/25/2007 1:32:19 PM
From: GROUND ZERO™	Respond to of 20106

Now, if Allah knew what Bob was going to do before he was even born, how could Bob do anything else? If Bob decided to instead heed the Islamic prohibition on liquor, then that would make Allah a liar six billion years prior, which is impossible. However, if Allah knows everything Bob is going to do, then it it is as if he is pre-programmed, and the events of Bob's life are obviously predetermined. If Bob's life if predetermined, he cannot be considered guilty of any "sin" he "commits." As much as I think the whole moslum thing is just a hoax and cult, I stopped reading the argument after the above paragraph for the following reasons... The argument is too narrow in scope to discuss what would be considered an omniscient being, one could just as easily suggest that this fellow Bob still has a choice, and that there is more than a single reality... we already know that quantum physics has already shown us how things don't always follow linear logic... I think the best way to make my point here is to imagine two fish in the sea discussing the reality of the entire universe, but meanwhile they have no clue about anything above the water line, they're simply not hard wired to grasp it, it goes far beyond the scope of their ability to grasp any of it, no less to discuss it intelligently... this is the same as two people discussing any God like entity... any God like entity must, by definition, exist outside the reality of the creatures created by that God like entity... We really don't know how many dimensions the universe has, or how many different levels of reality truly exists beyond the reach of the hard wiring of our physical brains... I'm not attempting to suggest a defense of any religion here, but simply to point out that, by definition alone, it would be humanly impossible to describe, or even discuss, the attributes of any God like being or entity... this is probably why religions rely so heavily on faith... GZ

To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (5095)	2/25/2007 1:43:09 PM
From: FJB	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20106

1) Allah is omniscient, i.e. He knows all things. (2) Allah is omnipotent, i.e. He can do all things. (3) Allah knows everything that He will ever do after this point [from (1)]. (4) Allah can do anything He pleases, at anytime He pleases [from (2)]. (5) Allah can change His mind about what he planned to do [from (2) & (4)]. (6) If Allah can change His mind, and do something different from what he originally planned to do, then He did not originally know what He was going to do. If Mecca were nuked, it would just be part of Allah's plan.