To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (4576 ) 2/25/2007 10:27:46 PM From: orkrious Respond to of 50526 LOL. I'm a semi-retired day trader thanks to the PM bull. I closed my trading account in 2005 when I realized trading isn't as profitable as investing. That's not to say I don't trade. In May and June of last year when the PMs were getting killed I bought huge positions in PAAS and NG on margin. I sold the NG when ABX bid on it. I still have the PAAS and am holding for LT cap gains. Yes, I've held my 100% fully-invested core position during the dips. It was far easier for me than the average gold investor because I was concurrently short stocks. Last summer as the homies were getting smoked I rolled those short profits into the miners as they were getting killed. Yes, it takes a strong stomach. I've suffered 30% drawdowns in my PMs. But so what. In 2002 I bought my first AZS at US $.75. It's now $12. The same year I bought my first SA at $1.52. It's now $16. I bought PAAS at $4. (I did sell all of my PAAS around $22 in Jan 05 when I read about potential summer 05 election problems in Peru, but I rolled the proceeds into more NG at 9 (now 16) and SSRI at 15 (now 36).) Then I bought the PAAS back under 18 (on margin) when the election was causing consternation in the mkt. So, yeah, I'm a buy and holder of the miners. There may be some traders that have had a higher after-tax return, but I'll bet they haven't beaten me on an after-tax basis. I trade some other stuff, like the homies and lenders on the short side, but that's not the way to true wealth. Back in 2001 or 2002 Richard Russell said there aren't many people who can buy and hold the gold bull, but those that do will be rich. I told myself I could do it then and I have. It hasn't been easy, but it beats calling tops and losing my position.