To: Chas. who wrote (8134 ) 3/1/2007 10:15:20 AM From: Hawkmoon Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15987 I live in a multi racial community within a few miles of Dearborn, MI (the 2nd largest Muslim, ME population outside the USA)...Trust me... the Moderate elements of the ME hate the Jews and disrespect the West in general and always will, I see and hear a lot in my neighborhood... Hasn't that been the case throughout history, people hating one another over petty jealousy and prejudice? Don't they have the individual right to hate (or love) whoever they want? It is a free country, right? It's when people start acting directly, or promoting others to act violently, upon those feelings of hate and alienation and infringe upon the rights of others when we have the moral authority to confront and neutralize them. Of course, we can use our statutory law within our own borders to thwart these kinds of people. But on an international basis, it's the law of the jungle and we must act with reciprocal violence against those who seek to destroy us.. What is radicalizing the Mid-East is the same thing that radicalized our own society in the '60s, a baby boom and excess of youth lacking economic or social options. The demographic nature of this conflict has been ignored, IMO. What it's going to require is the "Arafat solution".. When Arafat was faced with a large number of young, single, fighters striving for power and seeking to wage war against the enemy, at the very time he was attempting to promote himself from terrorist to statesman, he came up with a plan to keep them occupied. He set up a program to get these young men married. And with marriage came a personal epiphany.. Now they had a wife.. and likely children, to take care of. No time for Jihad now.. Momma demands they get a job and make some money.. They have a family. Tried to find a link to that article I read some years ago covering this subject, but my efforts have been in vain.. probably not querying properly. However, this is the same problem in the current demographic environment in the Mid-East. Lack of economic opportunity and the inability to pay the dowries required to be "eligible" to marry someone else's daughter.After a decade of inflated wedding bills and dowry demands, Emirati bachelors are increasingly unwilling to marry local women. Growing numbers of bachelors, unable to raise the six figure sums that many prospective in-laws demand and reluctant to fall into debt, have opted out by taking European, Asian or foreign Arab brides...... .....But while governments have struggled to curb social spending during the last decade, wedding costs and dowries have continued to spiral upwards. Traditionally, an Arabian woman’s dowry comprised ornate silver jewellery, but modern brides favour gold jewellery and cash sums to the traditional Arabian wedding sets. Rising gold prices have only increased young GCC bachelors’ financial worries. In status-conscious Arabian social circles, the average cost of a wedding had soared to around $100,000 by the late 1990s.... datadubai.com And this is in Dubai, one of the most prosperous countries in the Mid-East. Imagine the problems young men are facing in poorer countries in the region. One of the solutions to the Jihadist threat will be helping to recognize the individual rights of women. Women have different priorities in life. They want children.. they want a responsible man to secure the prosperity of those children and to protect them. They have no need for a man who will foolishly sacrifice his life in a suicide attack, nor will they tolerate, if they have the choice/voice, their men putting their families at risk by being involved in Jihadist behavior. This is the lesson the Israelis have learned, and terrorism in Israel, while still present, is much less evident than in previous years. Promote the equality of women, and back it up with documentation from Qu'ran (which actually has some very liberal views on women), and the mysognistic nature of Muslim (and especially Arab) culture will gradually change. Hawk