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To: Elroy who wrote (221711)	2/28/2007 7:37:27 AM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

You can bitch all you want to about the decision to invade Iraq, but that is today water under the bridge. Americans today want Iraqis to stop killing each other and live together normally, something most Iraqis also want. The enemies of that completely normal objective are Abdul, Salim, Ali and their sponsors. I suppose that right after 9/11 the US could have said "That's water under the bridge."; the 19 hijackers are dead; we should move past that since most people want to live in peace. We could have. But the American people don't want to leave violence against them unanswered. Afghanistan really didn't have anything to do with 9/11. They were just in our way to get to AQ. "Justice" often has a revenge component to it. On a large scale the people who want peace just happen to be in the way. The guys with the big bucks use Daisy Cutters and cluster bombs to achieve "justice". The guys without the bucks use power drills and suicide belts to achieve "justice". How different is: "The friend of our enemy is our enemy." and "You're either with us or against us."? There seems to be a consensus that there has to be reconciliation in Iraq to achieve a state of peace. Easy to say; hard to do. What are the odds that the residents of FADG will have a reconciliation? Suppose a woman is a victim of rape and one day blows her attacker away with a shotgun blast to the back. Is the rape all water under the bridge to be forgotten? jttmab

To: Elroy who wrote (221711)	2/28/2007 9:12:17 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

I think I just saw a poll that showed most people thought going to Iraq was a mistake, and most people want the US to leave, soon. So while Americans may want Iraqis to stop killing each other, I don't think most of them think that's a good reason for US troops to be in Iraq. Judging by the polls. By Dan Froomkin Special to washingtonpost.com Tuesday, February 27, 2007; 12:48 PM It's a landslide. In stark contrast to the indecision and hesitation on Capitol Hill and among the Washington media elite, the American people have made up their mind about Iraq. They want out, and they want Congress to do something about it. According to the results of the latest Washington Post/ABC News poll, disapproving of President Bush's Iraq policy is not just the majority view; it is the sentiment of two out of every three members of the American public. Support for a troop withdrawal -- and, specifically, for Congress to stay Bush's hand -- is not the domain of the antiwar left. It is the view of a solid majority of Americans. Consider some of these findings, listed in order of how strongly those views are held. (And I'm only including those with over 55 percent support): * 67 disapprove of the way Bush is handling Iraq. * 67 percent oppose sending additional troops to Iraq. * 66 percent support reducing U.S. military and financial support for the Iraqi government if the Iraqis fail to make progress toward national unity and restoring civil order. * 64 don't think the war with Iraq was worth fighting. * 58 percent want Congress to limit the number of troops available for duty. * 56 percent feel the U.S. should withdraw its military forces from Iraq in order to avoid further U.S. military casualties, even if that means civil order is not restored there. And in a somewhat related finding: * 63 percent feel they cannot trust the Bush administration to honestly and accurately report intelligence about possible threats from other countries. Dan Balz and Jon Cohen write about the poll in The Washington Post; Gary Langer for ABC News. A new Gallup Poll finds that 65 percent of Americans see the British troop withdrawal announcement as a sign that things are going poorly in Iraq, rather than well -- contrary to the White House spin. Another Gallup Poll, this one on the U.S. role in the world, finds that a record 73 percent of Americans say they don't think leaders of other countries around the world have respect for Bush, and 61 percent are dissatisfied with the position of the United States in the world today. washingtonpost.com