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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (227136)	3/1/2007 2:51:21 PM
From: FJB	Respond to of 275872

How about that claim of 42% better performance? Vs. what? Dual-core Opteron? Clovertown? In integer? Floating point? Across the board, or on one "common industry-standard benchmark"? From the article: Barcelona will deliver 42 percent better floating-point performance than Intel's Xeon X5355 Clovertown, said Mario Rivas, executive vice president of the computing products group at AMD, making the comparison with the SPEC_fp benchmark that measures mathematical calculation speed. Using SPEC_int, which measures more common integer-processing tasks, Barcelona will outperform Clovertown by greater than 10 percent, AMD said, without being specific. news.com.com

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (227136)	3/1/2007 2:51:22 PM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Technusatsu, How about that claim of 42% better performance? Vs. what? Dual-core Opteron? Clovertown? In integer? Floating point? Across the board, or on one "common industry-standard benchmark"? The claims coming from the AMD execs seem to vary in detail, which leads to even more variation in interpretation, especially from "you heard it here first" sites like the Inq. AMD said Barcelona 42% better at some FP bench, >10% better on some INT bench than Clovertown (apparently 2.66 GHz version). How do you go about evaluating credibility of AMd claims until the benches come out? Personally, I think Barcelona will just be "good enough" for AMD to get back in the game, but that also means the AMD execs will once again get away with their dishonesty. What dishonesty? AMD never said that the new chip will be better than Intel chip on all benchmarks. Barcelona will be slightly better on some, slightly worse on others, a lot better on some (FP) a lot worse on others (single thread int that like big caches). My opinion is also that it will be "good enough", which BTW is not that unimpressive considering how orgasmic some people are about Conroe. As far as "dishonesty" of marketing your product strengths, not broadcasting about weaknesses, I think just about every company is guilty of that. AMD still has a lot to learn from Intel in this area, BTW. Joe