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To: lorne who wrote (5590)3/1/2007 8:33:27 PM
From: Proud_Infidel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20106
 
The reason we haven't noticed American Muslims condemning terrorism
Salon ^ | Mar. 01, 2007 | Paul M. Barrett

salon.com

"What I want to know is: Why haven't these American Muslims you write about denounced terrorism?" The speaker, wearing an expression of earnest frustration, stood first in line to get a signed copy of my new book after a reading I did last week at the Los Angeles Public Library. "You say there are these moderate Muslims," he continued. "Why don't we hear from them about terrorism?"

It's a question I've heard at every bookstore, library, radio station and television studio where I've appeared around the country in the past month as I promoted my book "American Islam: The Struggle for the Soul of a Religion." More than five years after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, many Americans still want to know why they haven't heard Muslims in the U.S. issue louder, clearer condemnations of terrorism. Muslim Americans who attend my readings often counter, sometimes with great emotion, that they have repeatedly denounced terrorism but that non-Muslims don't listen.

But this disconnect may not stem entirely from a failure to listen. It may also have to do with the way American Muslims have condemned terrorism. Specifically, until recently, Muslim leaders often added caveats to their condemnations that robbed them of real force.

The vast majority of Muslims I spoke with while researching my book were eager to deplore the killing of civilians for religious or ideological motives. Non-Muslims who insist they haven't heard from moderate Muslims on the topic of terrorism simply haven't paid attention to outspoken figures like Khaled Abou El Fadl. A scholar of Egyptian descent who teaches Islamic law at UCLA, Abou El Fadl takes an unambiguous stand opposing religiously motivated violence against innocents, no matter what the alleged justification.

After 9/11, Abou El Fadl appeared frequently in the national media. He emphasized the restrictions the Quran placed on stealth attacks, rebellion and harm to noncombatants. He told the CBS Evening News in October 2003: "You cannot kill a woman, you cannot kill a child, you cannot kill a senior individual, you cannot kill a hermit, you cannot kill a member of the clergy, you cannot even kill peasants who are not fighters." He emphasized that in modern terms, these prohibitions translate into a ban on all terrorism.

While he rejects the idea that moderate Muslims have been mute on terrorism, Abou El Fadl has argued that Muslim leaders in the U.S. have failed "to convince the American public of the outrage felt by most Muslims over the tragedy of September 11." Abou El Fadl has proposed a huge Muslim demonstration of mourning at the World Trade Center site: something truly dramatic and designed to attract television coverage, so the world would have to take notice.

This criticism went off like a bomb within Muslim circles. "When you find a statement like that from an insider, it creates anger," Maher Hathout told me. A retired cardiologist from Egypt, Hathout helped build the prominent Islamic Center of Southern California as well as the Muslim Public Affairs Council, a civil rights group based in Los Angeles. He believes American Muslims did enough after the attacks. "We spoke very loudly against that. We made a quilt with all of the names of victims. Some of them, I think, were Muslims. We sent the quilt to ground zero, then we put it in a church in New York."

But Hathout's characterization of the attack also includes one of those troubling asterisks. When he says he reviles the 9/11 hijackers, he also tries to deny that they are Muslims. "If those people claim to be Muslims," he says, "this is against every fiber in Islam." In his circular reasoning, real Muslims can have no connection to terrorism because Islam forbids such violence. Ergo, Muslims didn't carry out 9/11 since anyone who could do such a thing is not a real Muslim. This verbal feint could suggest evasiveness to some listeners.

Hathout is excommunicating the 9/11 attackers after the fact. There are other prominent Muslims, however, who still try to cast doubt on the official story about 9/11. They are suggesting that Muslims were not at fault -- that someone else did the deed.

Siraj Wahhaj, an African-American convert to Islam and one of the most popular Muslim preachers in the country, frequently headlines national Muslim conferences and speaks to Islamic groups on college campuses. An unusual crossover star who appeals to both black and immigrant Muslim audiences, he has few rivals as a celebrity within the faith in America. During long interviews at his home mosque in the Bedford-Stuyvesant section of Brooklyn, N.Y., Wahhaj denounced those responsible for the attacks on the World Trade Center and said he grieved for the victims and their families.

But years after Osama bin Laden himself took credit for the massacre, Wahhaj refused to ascribe blame to the Saudi terrorist or his al-Qaida network. "I'm not sure if I've seen the evidence that says that they've done it," he told me. "I'm not unlike so many other Muslims around the world and even in this country -- decent Muslims who would never agree to something like that [9/11], who are just not sure" of bin Laden's culpability. Wahhaj explained that bin Laden's videotaped boasts about the attacks may have been a media ruse: doctored videotape, perhaps, or even a performance staged by American-backed operatives.

The imam's refusal to acknowledge bin Laden's guilt is incomprehensible to an outsider and obviously obscures any anti-terrorism message he might be trying to convey. As a Muslim leader, he contributes to the impression held by many non-Muslims that people of his faith aren't entirely sorry to have seen the U.S. taken down a notch.

In recent years, said Wahhaj, he has toned down some of his more bristling oratory. "There's definitely a different discourse after 9/11 than before," he told me. He and other prominent imams have discussed the inadvisability of portraying "we, the Muslims, against everyone else. It's not always like that." When referring to Christians and Jews, he said he has tried to avoid the Arabic word "kafir," a pejorative for disbeliever. Instead, he uses the more neutral term "non-Muslim." In a widely disseminated talk called "Muslims in America: Surviving After Sept. 11," he concluded: "Our fight, brothers and sisters, is not with guns and knives and bombs. That's so foolish. That's not our fight. Our fight is simply the truth."

But he also approves of the use of the Arabic term "jihad," which could confuse some listeners and almost certainly would provoke suspicion among non-Muslims. Jihad can refer to a spiritual struggle. It can also mean physical battle in defense of Islam. In a talk titled "Blessing of Death," which I obtained on the Internet, Wahhaj told his audience, "If ever there comes a jihad, brother, don't run from the jihad, because the sickness of the umma [Islamic nation] today is their fear and hatred of death. But in the old days, that best generation, they loved jihad, and they loved death."

While the "fight" Wahhaj envisions for American Muslims doesn't involve arms, a "legitimate war" he does have in mind is the Arab struggle against Israel. And that raises yet another issue that keeps American Muslims from making the sort of blanket condemnation of terrorism that other Americans want to hear.

To reject terrorism summarily could be seen as signaling disapproval of those Muslim groups engaged in violent struggle against Israel. Although known to non-Muslims in this country for acts of terrorism, Hamas and Hezbollah enjoy the respect of many American Muslims. Sympathizers tend to stress that in addition to waging war on Israel, the organizations play important social-service and political roles in the Palestinian territories and Lebanon, respectively. That, however, is not the only reason American Muslims are sympathetic. Suicide bombing, for which Hamas in particular is notorious, repels most Americans. Many Muslims, however, are less critical of suicide bombing when it is directed at Israel.

In general, the issue of terror is a reminder that Muslims and non-Muslims have to communicate across a cultural divide. It can be hard to speak clearly and to hear across that gap. Still, I think the divide became much narrower two years ago. I observed a marked change in message among some Muslim organizations after the July 7, 2005, bombings in London.

Though far smaller in scale than the 9/11 attacks, the London bombings were in some ways equally unnerving to moderate Muslims. There were fewer attempts to air conspiracy theories or pretend the bombers weren't Muslims. And the violence could not be ascribed to strange non-Western Muslims raised in insular Islamic lands. The London bombers were, undeniably, homegrown Muslims, born and bred in Britain yet willing to murder their countrymen. This irrefutable confirmation of a threat from within Islam in the West caused some American Muslim groups to reassess their past tendency to try to deflect and evade questions about what mainstream Muslims are doing to address terrorism. Noticeably toned down were the arguments that Muslims aren't the only ones who commit violence, that Islam is a religion of peace, and that what needs to change is American foreign policy.

Three weeks after the London bombings, the Fiqh Council of North America, a panel of prominent Muslim scholars, issued a fatwa, or religious edict, declaring without qualification that "all acts of terrorism targeting civilians are haram [forbidden] in Islam." The group instructed that "it is the civic and religious duty of Muslims to cooperate with law enforcement authorities to protect the lives of all civilians."

At a press conference in Washington announcing that 120 Muslim groups had endorsed the fatwa, Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said, "The presence here today of American Muslim leaders indicates the willingness of our community to strengthen national security and to work with policymakers to gain victory over this international menace to humanity." Employing the slogan "Not in the Name of Islam," CAIR sponsored a series of television and radio spots to underscore this message. At its annual convention over the Labor Day weekend in 2005, a separate umbrella organization, the Islamic Society of North America, urged 40,000 attendees to reject imams or others who argue that extremism can be religiously justified. In pamphlets and posters meant to be handed out at local mosques, ISNA condemned "any such tendencies in the Muslim community in this country and in the world."

This new bluntness is, of course, laudable and welcome. That it took CAIR, ISNA and other national organizations until mid-2005 to clarify their antiterrorism stance, sifting out distracting qualifications, is disappointing and a partial explanation for why non-Muslim Americans claim they've heard only silence on the topic. The other part of the explanation is that we haven't been listening closely enough to Muslims like Khaled Abou El Fadl, who have been unequivocally rejecting terrorism all along.



To: lorne who wrote (5590)3/1/2007 9:01:20 PM
From: Proud_Infidel  Respond to of 20106
 
Film on 'Islam's War Against The West' Causes Protests
Film Showings Canceled on Campuses Around Country
By Karen W. Arenson

www-tech.mit.edu

THe New York Times

When Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West, a documentary that shows Muslims urging attacks on the United States and Europe, was screened recently at the University of California, Los Angeles, it drew an audience of more than 300 — and also dozens of protesters.

At Pace University in New York, administrators pressured the Jewish student organization Hillel to cancel a showing in November, arguing it could spur hate crimes against Muslim students. A Jewish group at the State University of New York at Stony Brook also canceled the film last semester.

The documentary has become the latest flashpoint in the bitter campus debate over the Middle East, not just because of its clips from Arab television rarely shown in the West, including scenes of suicide bombers being recruited and inducted, but also because of its pro-Israel distribution network.

When a Middle East discussion group organized a showing at New York University recently, it found that the distributors of Obsession were requiring those in attendance to register at IsraelActivism.com, and that digital pictures of the events be sent to Hasbara Fellowships, a group set up to counter anti-Israel sentiment on college campuses.

"If people have to give their names over to Hasbara Fellowships at the door, that doesn't have the effect of stimulating open dialogue," said Jordan J. Dunn, president of the Middle East Dialogue Group of New York University, which mixes Jews and Muslims. "Rather, it intimidates people and stifles dissent."

The documentary's proponents say it provides an unvarnished look at Islamic militancy. "It's an urgent issue that is widely avoided by academia," argued Michael Abdurakhmanov, the Hillel president at Pace.

Its critics call it incendiary. Norah Sarsour, a Palestinian-American student at UCLA, said it was disheartening to see "a film like this that takes the people who have hijacked the religion and focuses on them."

Certainly it is a new element in the bitter campus battles over the Middle East that have encompassed everything from the content and teaching of Middle East studies to disputes over art exhibitions about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to debates over free speech.

"The situation in the Middle East has been a major issue on campus for decades, but the heat has noticeably turned up lately," said Greg Lukianoff, the president of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education.

At San Francisco State University, for example, College Republicans stomped on copies of the Hamas and Hezbollah flags last October at an "antiterrorism" rally. At the University of California, Irvine, the Muslim Student Union drew criticism last year for a "Holocaust in the Holy Land" program about Israel.

Brandeis University officials pulled an exhibition of Palestinian children's drawings, including some of bloodied Palestinian children, designed to bring the Palestinian viewpoint to the campus, half of whose students are Jewish.

Three years ago a video produced by a pro-Israeli group featuring Jewish students' complaints of intimidation by Middle East studies professors at Columbia set off a campus-wide debate over freedom of speech and academic freedom, prompting an investigation that found some fault by one professor but "no evidence of any statements made by the faculty that could reasonably be construed as anti-Semitic."

Into this milieu stepped the producer of Obsession, Raphael Shore, a 45-year-old Canadian who lives in Israel, with the documentary. It features scenes like the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Muslim children being encouraged to become suicide bombers, interspersed with those of Nazi rallies.

The film was directed by Wayne Kopping of South Africa, who had worked with Mr. Shore previously on a documentary about the failure of the Oslo peace efforts in the Middle East. Mr. Shore said in a recent interview that they had not set out to make a film for college students but to spur action against Islamic terrorism. "We want to spread this message to all people that will stand up and make a difference in combating this threat," he said.

When no traditional film distributors picked it up, he said, colleges were an obvious outlet — it was screened on 30 campuses last semester — along with DVD sales on the Internet (ObsessionTheMovie.com), and showings at synagogues and other locales, including conservative ones like the Heritage Foundation in Washington. There were also repeated broadcasts of abbreviated versions or excerpts on Fox News in November and again this month, and on other media outlets like CNN Headline News.

"College students have the power with their energy, resources, time and interest to make a difference, often more than other individuals," Mr. Shore said.

He hired a campus coordinator, Karyn Leffel, who works out of the New York City office of the Hasbara Fellowships program, which aims to train students "to be effective pro-Israel activists on their campuses."

"Obsession is so important because it shows what's happening in Israel is not happening in a vacuum," said Elliot Mathias, director of the Hasbara Fellowships program, "and that it affects all American students on campuses, not just Jewish students."

Mr. Shore said that despite the collaboration with Hasbara, the goal was to draw a wide audience.

"The evangelical Christians and the Jews tend to be the softest market, the most receptive to the message of the film, so we have done lots with those groups," he said. "But we are trying very hard to expand beyond those groups, because we specifically don't want it to be seen as a film that has that connection."

Mr. Shore describes his film as nonpartisan and balanced, and many viewers agree with him. Traci Ciepiela, who teaches criminal justice at Western Wyoming Community College in Rock Springs and has a screening scheduled this week, says she learned from the film and did not think that it was unfair or inflammatory.



To: lorne who wrote (5590)3/1/2007 10:16:23 PM
From: one_less  Respond to of 20106
 
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To: lorne who wrote (5590)3/1/2007 10:16:34 PM
From: one_less  Respond to of 20106
 
So maybe we have defined a true difference between us. I have doubted most of what you say and do is anything more than what you seem to think is some sort of clever ensnarement strategy. tsk... its all much more transparent than you may think.

I hate bigoted extremism and have no problem declaring so.

You have fears... hmmm not surprising. Nor is it a surprise to me that you recognize this difference between us. People who have unrealistic fears and act on their fears can become pretty weird. Paranoia runs deep on this thread, I didn't think you were the type but your style of posting is far from straight out and honest so who knows.

Maybe your little group of buddies figures fear works on others too. Big hint for you. You bigoted extremists don't frighten me.

"How did you come to hate like this?

Odd that you should ask, (not unusual that you would try to make something deceptively misconceived out of it) but it seems obvious to me that the insideous evil corruption of humanity is to be despised just as love for the well being of others is to be cherished. Besides being obvious to me, its comfirmed by every Holy book, and wise person who's ever walked the planet. That commonality of humanity is probably lost on extremists though, so I get why you may not have gotten it.

I have only one fear. The loss of my eternal soul, which I am confident would be assured if I were to join the corrupt mission you all are on, which seems intent on bringing as much harm as possible to Muslims, the innocent as well as the guilty.

Btw... you all don't represent the views of Christians or Mainstream Americans. I've let some decent people view for themselves what you are doing. They are horrified that you would even claim to represent them. It probably helps you feel better to dismiss them as PC liars or something, but I don't know for sure; I don't know what anyone would do to feel better after engaging in such corruption of their soul.