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To: dougSF30 who wrote (227202)	3/2/2007 4:30:02 AM
From: Petz	Respond to of 275872

I'm completely aware of that data, so what's your point? I never said there would never be a 120W part. But the 120W parts do not qualify for "15% less TDP than X5355," do they? AMD names the part number, says that they will be X% faster and Y% lower TDP. It could not be any clearer than that. By your reasoning, since AMD will have a 68 watt quad core part on the release date, they should be claiming that "Barcelona power consumption will be 43% below Intel quad core." Heck, that's close enough to say "half as much." Now here's yet another report on what Henri Richard actually said at the R6000 The truth, he claimed, was that AMD's upcoming Barcelona processor will run at least 42 percent faster than the Xeon 5355, Intel's current top of the line. internetnews.com Makes for some good reading also on how Intel cheated when they submitted their own Opteron score to make the claim that C2D was 57& faster than Opteron. Apparently, no one had bothered to submit a 1-way SPECint_rate benchmark on a dual core Opteron CPU until Intel did it. You can think what you want to think, but I think "upcoming Barcelona processors" are the ones that will be launched before July. I have never seen either Intel or AMD release exact SPEC scores before a product is officially launched, and Barcelona 2.5 GHz will not be launched in June, according to that same table. Enterprise March 1, 2007 AMD Cries Foul Over Intel Benchmarks By Andy Patrizio AMD is losing its patience with arch-rival Intel and venting its irritation over what it considers a lop-sided benchmark comparison. During this week's launch event for the 690 chipset, Henri Richard, executive vice president and chief sales and marketing officer for AMD (Quote), vented a little spleen. "I think we've been too quiet. I'm sick and tired of being pushed around by a competitor that doesn't value competition," he told the assembled reporters. He was grumbling about an Intel benchmark from August, 2006, that compared a 2.8Ghz Opteron 2220 to the 3Ghz Xeon 5160 dual core Xeon, using the older SPECint_rate2000 benchmark. In that benchmark, Intel had a 57 percent performance advantage over AMD. But with the SPECint_rate2006 benchmark, that AMD used in January, 2007, the two came out even, with a very slight edge to Opteron. In discussing the issue after, Richard said Intel used a "single core" processor, but the Opteron 2220 is dual core. I think he meant that Intel ran a SPECint2000_rate test with only one of the two CPU's enabled. I can no longer find any SPECint2000_rate benchmarks with Opterons tested by Intel. Maybe SPEC has thrown the test out. Incidentally, SPEC2000 is now listed as officially retired on the SPEC site. It takes two extra clicks to find the archived results. (more at internetnews.com ) Petz