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To: SARMAN who wrote (222038)	3/2/2007 7:39:33 AM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Mormons are Israelite. No way. They're Christians. You might be confused by the word Zion used by the LDS. "Zion is a term with broad significance in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In addition to its Biblical meaning referring to Jerusalem, Mormons see Zion more broadly as any city in which the people are unified and are "pure in heart," with no contention and no poor among them based on living the Law of Consecration. In specific scriptural references, the term refers to the central physical location or city to which Latter-day Saints have historically gathered, which has included Kirtland, Ohio; Independence, Missouri; and Nauvoo, Illinois. In a more metaphorical sense, Zion represents a unified society of Latter-day Saints, unified as members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or with others willing to live the law of consecration. Under this interpretation one can strive to make even one's own home "Zion". Zion also refers to what Latter-day Saints generally believe will be the New Jerusalem, a physical, millennial city expected to be headquartered in Jackson County, Missouri." That's from Wilkipedia. For some reason the main link is coming up as garbage, the above is from the cached file [google] jttmab

To: SARMAN who wrote (222038)	3/2/2007 7:54:46 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Israel is a nation. Built on stolen land. What a nation. Her point is all land is stolen land. There's nothing out of the ordinary with building a nation on stolen land. The USA did it. The main difference (for me) is that the USA lets any human that can contribute join the nation as an immediate equal. The displaced indigenous groups (the Indians) are free to integrate into USA society, and live equally with the rest of us. Also the USA accepts refugees as citizens depending on their need, not their ethnic group. The USA is inclusive of others - we put them on our team and build together.