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To: lorne who wrote (5635)3/2/2007 1:19:23 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 20106
 
Thanks. That should be helpful for those who didn't know the basis for the argument about whether or not Mohammad invented Islam.

Like I suggested to Zeus if he doesn't want an unbiased view he can go to sources who present only one side of the argument and likely form a solid opinion for himself, as you no doubt have been able to do. Your anti-Muslim site did a good job on the Moon God argument. It's a strong argument and well substantiated. I am sure that works just fine for you.

Unfortunately for the rest of us we are not willing to be fed biased arguments and we are not willing to ignore the other valid sources of information on the topic or the discussion could be closed forever.

No doubt the Moon God was called Allah, and its worship is specifically forbidden by Islamic texts, as all pagan Gods in Arabia were called Allah and as the God of Abraham was called Allah by Arabic speaking people, including those who worshipped as Christians or Jews. Don't let that simple fact get in the way of your propaganda though. It was an Arabic word meaning god prior to Mohammad, which has now become associated only with Islam.



To: lorne who wrote (5635)3/2/2007 1:26:42 PM
From: Ichy Smith  Respond to of 20106
 
Moon

It is interesting that the earliest references to the name Yah (Yaeh) refer to the moon as a satellite of the earth in its physical form. From this, the term becomes conceptualized as a lunar deity, pictorially anthropomorphic but whose manifestations, from hieroglyphic evidence, can include the crescent of the new moon, the ibis and the falcon, which is comparable to the other moon deities, Thoth and Khonsu.

Of course, the complexity and controversy of Yah stem from the term's similarity to the early form of the name for the modern god of the Jews (Yahweh), Christians and Muslims, as well as the fact that their ancestors were so intermingled with those of the Egyptians. In fact, this distinctive attribute of this god makes research on his ancient Egyptian mythology all the more difficult.

Little is really know of this god's cult, and there is no references to actual temples or locations where he may have been worshipped.

However, among ancient references, we do seem to find in the Papyrus of Ani several references to the god, though here, his name has been translated as Lah:

In Chapter 2:

"A spell to come forth by day and live after dying. Words spoken by the Osiris Ani:
O One, bright as the moon-god Iah; O One, shining as Iah;
This Osiris Ani comes forth among these your multitudes outside, bringing himself back as a shining one. He has opened the netherworld.
Lo, the Osiris Osiris [sic] Ani comes forth by day, and does as he desires on earth among the living."

And again, in Chapter 18:

"[A spell to] cross over into the land of Amentet by day. Words spoken by the Osiris Ani:
Hermopolis is open; my head is sealed [by] Thoth.
The eye of Horus is perfect; I have delivered the eye of Horus, and my ornament is glorious on the forehead of Ra, the father of the gods.
Osiris is the one who is in Amentet. Indeed, Osiris knows who is not there; I am not there.
I am the moon-god Iah among the gods; I do not fail.
Indeed, Horus stands; he reckons you among the gods."

The high point in Yah's popularity can be found following the the Middle Kingdom when many people immigrated from the Levant and the Hyksos ruled Egypt. Hence, it is likely that contact with the regions of Palestine, Syria and Babylon were important in the development of this god in Egypt. George Hart, in his "A Dictionary of Egyptian Gods and Goddesses" believes that these foreigners in Egypt may have associated Yah with the Akkadian moon-god, Sin, who had an important temple at Harron in north Syria. Like Thoth, Sin was a god of Wisdom, but his other epithets included "Brother of the Earth", Father of the Sun, Father of Gods, as well as others

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