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To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (5851)	3/6/2007 10:31:12 AM
From: one_less	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 20106

"I have asked you (and len grasso) numerous times to post positive articles about islam. Each time you both refused. Is this because you cannot find any? I cannot say for sure, but I do know your statements are entirely disingenuous when I am asking people to post positive articles about islam." Nonsense: The thread agenda is with purpose. The declared purpose of this thread (from one point in time or another) is to attack people or groups who are committing the worst acts on the planet in the name of Islam or as representatives of Islam, or simply if the perpetrator might claim to be a Muslim. Personally, there would be nothing wrong with that if there is a genuine disclaimer by the proponents of that agenda, recognizing that there are as bad or worse events in the world that can be associated with all major cultures. You however, regularly go far beyond that point to condemn all Muslims, and by deliberately interpreting the religion of Islam for us in a way that no Beneficent God could ever have intended it. But that's because you are a corrupt extremist yourself acting as a tool for Radical Islamicists. You do it in a manner that is intended to be harmful to millions of innocent Muslims, it is a corruption to imply you are doing it as a champion of decent folk. Your intentions are clearly not genuine and no decent person is going to play your bigot game. That is why NO ONE has responded to your numerous invitations, and you know it.

To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (5851)	3/6/2007 5:03:45 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 20106

Press Corner We are so Sorry for 9-11 September 11, 2004 By Kamal Nawash freemuslims.org This September 11 marks the third unforgettable anniversary of the worst mass murder in American history. After September 11, many in the Muslim world chose denial and hallucination rather than face up to the sad fact that Muslims perpetrated the 9-11 terrorist acts and that we have an enormous problem with extremism and support for terrorism. Many Muslims, including religious leaders, and ?intellectuals? blamed 9-11 on a Jewish conspiracy and went as far as fabricating a tale that 4000 Jews did not show up for work in the World Trade Center on 9-11. Yet others blamed 9-11 on an American right wing conspiracy or the U.S. Government which allegedly wanted an excuse to invade Iraq and ?steal? Iraqi oil. After numerous admissions of guilt by Bin Laden and numerous corroborating admissions by captured top level Al-Qaida operatives, we wonder, does the Muslim leadership have the dignity and courage to apologize for 9-11? If not 9-11, will we apologize for the murder of school children in Russia? If not Russia, will we apologize for the train bombings in Madrid, Spain? If not Spain, will we apologize for suicide bombings in buses, restaurants and other public places? If not suicide bombings, will we apologize for the barbaric beheadings of human beings? If not beheadings, will we apologize for the rape and murder of thousands of innocent people in Darfour? If not Darfour, will we apologize for the blowing up of two Russian planes by Muslim women? What will we apologize for? What will it take for Muslims to realize that those who commit mass murder in the name of Islam are not just a few fringe elements? What will it take for Muslims to realize that we are facing a crisis that is more deadly than the Aids epidemic? What will it take for Muslims to realize that there is a large evil movement that is turning what was a peaceful religion into a cult? Will Muslims wake up before it is too late? Or will we continue blaming the Jews and an imaginary Jewish conspiracy? The blaming of all Muslim problems on Jews is a cancer that is destroying Muslim society from within and it must stop. Muslims must look inward and put a stop to many of our religious leaders who spend most of their sermons teaching hatred, intolerance and violent jihad. We should not be afraid to admit that as Muslims we have a problem with violent extremism. We should not be afraid to admit that so many of our religious leaders belong behind bars and not behind a pulpit. Only moderate Muslims can challenge and defeat extremist Muslims. We can no longer afford to be silent. If we remain silent to the extremism within our community then we should not expect anyone to listen to us when we complain of stereotyping and discrimination by non-Muslims; we should not be surprised when the world treats all of us as terrorists; we should not be surprised when we are profiled at airports. Simply put, not only do Muslims need to join the war against terror, we need to take the lead in this war. As to apologizing, we will no longer wait for our religious leaders and ?intellectuals? to do the right thing. Instead, we will start by apologizing for 9-11. We are so sorry that 3000 people were murdered in our name. We will never forget the sight of people jumping from two of the highest buildings in the world hoping against hope that if they moved their arms fast enough that they may fly and survive a certain death from burning. We are sorry for blaming 9-11 on a Jewish or right wing conspiracy. We are so sorry for the murder of more than three hundred school children and adults in Russia. We are so sorry for the murder of train passengers in Spain. We are so sorry for all the victims of suicide bombings. We are so sorry for the beheadings, abductions, rapes, violent Jihad and all the atrocities committed by Muslims around the world. We are so sorry for a religious education that raised killers rather than train people to do good in the world. We are sorry that we did not take the time to teach our children tolerance and respect for other people. We are so sorry for not rising up against the dictators who have ruled the Muslim world for decades. We are so sorry for allowing corruption to spread so fast and so deep in the Muslim world that many of our youth lost hope. We are so sorry for allowing our religious leaders to relegate women to the status of forth class citizens at best and sub-humans at worse. We are so sorry. Muslim Condemnations of 9/11 Muslim leaders speak out against violence and terrorism islam.about.com Muslims Condemn Terrorist Attacks muhajabah.com