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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (222699)3/6/2007 12:29:25 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Check my post. I already checked that. This is what it should look like when you are wrong about something: I made a mistake there, Nadine (although I caught it and corrected it)--

I like this:

Even if we had been fighting in strict accordance with the war convention, the continuation of the struggle was not something forced upon us. It had to do with our war aims. The military estimate of casualties was based not only on the belief that the Japanese would fight almost to the last man, but also on the assumption that the Americans would accept nothing less than unconditional surrender. The war aims of the American government required either an invasion of the main islands, with enormous losses of American and Japanese soldiers and of Japanese civilians trapped in the war zones, or the use of the atomic bomb. Given that choice, one might well reconsider those aims. Even if we assume that unconditional surrender was morally desirable because of the character of Japanese militarism, it might still be morally undesirable because of the human costs it entailed. But I would suggest a stronger argument than this. The Japanese case is sufficiently different from the German so that unconditional surrender should never have been asked. Japan's rulers were engaged in a more ordinary sort of military expansion, and all that was morally required was that they be defeated, not that they be conquered and totally overthrown. Some restraint upon their war-making power might be justified, but their domestic authority was a matter of concern only to the Japanese people. In any case, if killing millions (or many thousands) of men and women was militarily necessary for their conquest and overthrow, then it was morally necessary--in order not to kill those people--to settle for something less. [. . .] If people have a right not to be forced to fight, they also have a right not to be forced to continue fighting beyond the point where the war might justly be concluded. Beyond that point, there can be no supreme emergencies, no arguments about military necessity, no cost-accounting in human lives. To press the war further than that is to re-commit the crime of aggression. In the summer of 1945, the victorious Americans owed the Japanese people an experiment in negotiation. To use the atomic bomb, to kill and terrorize civilians, without even attempting such an experiment, was a double crime.

jpri.org



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (222699)3/6/2007 1:15:23 PM
From: Katelew  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
By that logic we should have nuked Iraq??