To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (222709 ) 3/6/2007 1:29:02 PM From: epicure Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 We disagree. My point is, it's hardly the "easy" argument you said it was. I won't say there are no arguments on the other side, there are. I just find the use of a nuclear weapon unacceptable in all but the most extreme situations, and I do not find the crippled country of Japan in 1945 to fit such an extreme situation. As for the moral difference the author discusses- it's not about a few atrocities. Let's face it, the Allies engaged in plenty of those. The bombing of Dresden, and the fire bombing of Tokyo- to name just two horrendous attacks on civilians. The Rape of Nanking was horrible- but so were the above cited US attacks (and they were only two of many fire bombing attacks). It's no more fun to die in fire, then shot- actually, it's probably worse to burn to death. If I had my choice, I think I would choose raped and shot, over burned alive- but it's a nasty choice, and I'd rather not have to make it.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk Atrocities like that can be expected in any war, I think- and be expected from all sides, which is why I dislike war, in general, as a "solution" to problems which can he handled in other ways. But the purpose of the Japanese was relatively "normal" as wars go. They wanted to expand. The Germans not only wanted to build a new Roman-style 1000 year "reich", they had a plan to exterminate Jews, people with disabilities, gays, gypsies, and other "undesirables". I think that's a little different. You may not, but if you don't see the difference, we'll just have to disagree yet again. I wouldn't say they (the Nazis) were the only "awful" government. The Chinese had a rather horrible time under the communists. Stalin and Lenin were fairly horrible, and also killed millions (and when I said killed millions- we have to include the various famines in China and Russia to get to these numbers).