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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: PROLIFE who wrote (760189)	3/11/2007 11:42:01 PM
From: pompsander	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

I doubt if you have any idea what a Goldwater conservative is, as your idea of conservative values is "whatever Mr. Bush says this week". A) Out of control spending...no problem. Mr. Bush says its o.k. B). Interference in personal privacy issues within a family even after judicial review is exhausted.(Schaivo). No problem..Mr. Bush says its o.k. C). Big Government..and I mean BIG. New education and medicare programs. Huge new departments. No Problem..forget small government conservatism. Mr. Bush says big government is the way to go. D.). Failing to talk to other nations just because they disagree with us...no problem, Mr. Bush..No.No.Wait. Mr. Bush now says it is O.K. to talk to the likes of North Korea and Iran. So now that is what good conservatives do. Mr. Bush bears absolutely no relation to traditional republican conservatism. He is some kind of big-spending, big-government, interventionist, intrusive conservative. I don't think anybody who used to be a conservative, Goldwater or Reagan, would recognize him as the leader of their movement. And in his last State of the Union address, he dropped all the references to the social issues you care about. Gone. So why are you sending that big check to his planned presidential library up there at SMU?

To: PROLIFE who wrote (760189)	3/12/2007 6:06:46 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Re: [... but I consider myself more of a Goldwater conservative] "yes, yes, I have heard it all before for you..believe it even less than did then." Perhaps that's simply because you MISREMEMBER Goldwater's policy positions! For example: Goldwater (while 'personally' opposed to abortion) was WHOLLY OPPOSED to any governmental interference in women's reproductive decisions... and, while strongly for national defense, was also STRONGLY for a smaller government, annually balanced budgets, and low and simple taxes. Goldwater inspired many of the policy positions (often enunciated, but seldom delivered...) of Reagan, and the brand of politics attributed to Goldwater is now referred to as Western Conservatism, or Goldwater Conservatism (a Libertarian-suffused brand of small government, respect individual rights conservatism... as it may be imagined many of our forefathers would have identified with). Western Conservative philosophy has many clear differences with the Authoritarian-leaning, often Big Government requiring, social and religious conservatism of the Southern Conservative or Religious Conservative brand.