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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (223629)3/12/2007 1:01:33 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
And how many times have your radical, ill supported views been debunked to the point where you had to resort to questioning the motives of the poster, changing the subject or narrowing the inquiry from the forrest to the trees?


They have never been debunked and certainly not by you. Even now you are insulting me rather than "debunking" anything. You don't cite historians, you don't cite evidence, you ignore what I cite, since you just KNOW better.



To: cnyndwllr who wrote (223629)3/12/2007 2:10:00 AM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 281500
 
How many times have you posted that under Saddam there were terrorist camps in Iraq?
weeklystandard.com
Read it. You appear to need education.

Here's PBS on the same subject.
pbs.org
"Sabah Khodada was a captain in the Iraqi army from 1982 to 1992. He worked at what he describes as a highly secret terrorist training camp at Salman Pak (see Khodada's hand-drawn map of the camp), an area south of Baghdad."

There's more if you want it.

How many times have you posted that the 68 Tet offensive in Vietnam was a "great defeat" for the NVA and the VC
When the battle was over, who held the ground.
An American military unit larger than a platoon was never defeated by the NVA or Viet Cong in Vietnam. So where do you think the war was lost? How about the streets of Berzerkeley?

How many times have you posted that the British information on yellowcake from Niger hasn't been investigated and disproven?
You are free to prove me wrong (with sources, of course), but my understanding is the British gov't still stands by its story.

How many times have you posted that Saddam would have (you choose) rearmed with nukes, chemicals or biologicals, cooperated with terrorists, threatened the world, threatened his neighbors etc., as if you could somehow know that, and as if we'd have had no powerful options to deal with such things had they actually become fact?
Who invaded Iran in 1980? Who invaded Kuwait in 1991? What makes you think he would have stopped if not for US action?

How many times, and in how many ways, have you responded to criticisms of brutal Israeli actions in the West Bank by saying, "Well, the other guys are so terrible that Israel has no choice?"
Do you expect the Israelis to simply sit down and be slaughtered?
What threats has the President of Iran made towards Israel recently?
Who started the recent Israel-Kebanon fracas? Israel or Hezbollah?

And how many times have your radical, ill supported views been debunked to the point where you had to resort to questioning the motives of the poster, changing the subject or narrowing the inquiry from the forrest to the trees?
You're not doing so well yourself.

Since you've made your appearance here and dominated the talk, this board has markedly digressed from whatever level of civility, clarity and interest it once held.
GIVE ME A BREAK! It has deteriorated because it is no longer actually moderated. She was here LONG before FaultLine had his most unfortunate problems.

And there's no way of stopping you. You'll continue to multiple post the same unsubstantiated, inflammatory and often silly statements and most of us will have a hard time letting those statements slide.
Hey, you claim to be a smart guy and have everything figured out. You can't make the short to a solution to this "problem"?

But, as hard as it may be, I think that when you post statements that have been thoroughly debunked the board would be well advised to simply remind you that you've already lost that debate and move on.
Oh, but she hasn't. You have.

If we had that discipline we'd have more time and energy to discuss new issues instead of recirculating old silliness.
Well, you are the genius.