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To: Bill who wrote (55867)	3/13/2007 3:41:31 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 90947

After Dien Bien Phu...who could blame them....

To: Bill who wrote (55867)	3/13/2007 3:43:58 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 90947

They suffered an actual direct military defeat in Vietnam. en.wikipedia.org knox.army.mil No More Groupement Mobile 100s "In 1954 a motorized infantry regiment consisting of 3 battalions of crack French soldiery, led by highly experienced officers and NCOs, equipped with light armor, artillery and an abundance of automatic weapons was virtually annihilated in the Vietnamese Central Highlands. The French column had been expecting an ambush. They had light spotter aircraft overhead. Air support was on call. Where action was expected, they dismounted infantry to scout ahead. Before undertaking the road march, the French had divided their weapons so that each battalion was a miniature combined arms unit, ready to fight in a perimeter. But it only made things worse. Groupement Mobile 100 was destroyed by the 803rd Vietminh regiment. It was one of the final blows in a disastrous campaign which cost the French more than 170,000 troops and the loss of their Indochinese possessions. This was the legacy of Vietnam." belmontclub.blogspot.com We lost in the sense that we failed to achieve our objective, but where never directly defeated in the same way.