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To: Sam who wrote (224064)	3/14/2007 1:50:35 AM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Sam, too true, and sad. We would never have won and, if we had won, what would we have won that today would have made the world a better place with respect to Vietnam. What was the need that made us spend all those young American lives? WAR, HUH,. Ed

To: Sam who wrote (224064)	3/14/2007 10:44:23 AM
From: one_less	Respond to of 281500

"Yeah, a lot of people died and were killed after we left. Well, duh, they had civil war and people died. What a shock. Ho was a butcher, some say. Do they call Lincoln a "butcher"? Jefferson Davis? Lee? Grant? Sherman? I pick Sherman. Sherman's famous march to the sea was a strategy to cripple the south by cutting supply lines. Everything in the direct line of his path and 60 miles wide was destroyed. Crops burned, rail ties were melted and wrapped around tree trunks ... utter destruction. Then he was reassigned and it was his strategy to outfit the American soldiers in a winter uniform of buffalo robes and cover supply wagons with buffalo hides. That was part of our strategy during the American/Indian 'war' on the great plains. See many buffalo in that region lately,... Indians? How many battles did Indian tribes actually lose in that 'War/genocidal extermination'. I don't see that as a moral victory. "It was, to put it politely, nuts. I've had people tell me, oh they know a Vietnamese in ... Detroit, wherever,... who was bitter that we let them down....And they didn't have the moral high ground in that battle." Communism vs Capitalism isn't a moral issue; the military objective as I understood it was to establish a Korea like division. That cause became blurred and then completely lost by internal changes in our own culture during the mid to late sixties. I do see a difference in North and South Korea.

To: Sam who wrote (224064)	3/14/2007 1:47:06 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

And they didn't have the moral high ground in that battle. Who was your favorite Communist dictator? Lenin? Stalin? Mao? Ho? Pol Pot? Who? Yeah, a lot of people died and were killed after we left. Well, duh, they had civil war and people died. What a shock. Ho was a butcher, some say. Do they call Lincoln a "butcher"? Jefferson Davis? Lee? Grant? Sherman? Well, they're go your favorite arguments against GWB. Or Did you know there's a thing called the "Lincoln Memorial" on the Mall in DC?