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To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (74714)	3/17/2007 2:48:54 PM
From: LTK007	Respond to of 89467

EDITED:<<NOBODY has asked what the Iraq people want?>. When i have a the time to go on a ramble i will express at length why i say to myself and to all those appalled by this war why i will no longer write anything about how to stop this war now and the future war with Iran(which will include the Iraq War within it) via democratic processes because i now firmly believe the fascist imperialist have taken control, Bush leaving the WH will mean NOTHING. The U.S. now is, from Hillary to Giuliani to Obama is RULED by the McCain Law, we can NOT lose in Iraq(and that means Iran also) NO MATTER what we have to do to win. A person like Chuck Hagel doesn't have chance to have ANY influence on U.S. FP, and Obama if he were elected would be a neocon's lap dog by the time he got elected, for if he wasn't, he would NOT get elected. <<Those who think all will be hunky dory if only Bush is ousted no matter who takes his place are extraordinarily naive to put it mildly.>> i am not one to be mild, so i will say the likes of American Spirit are dangerously ignorant and as such they are NOTHING but enablers of this country becoming a BiPartisan Fascist Imperialist state. American Spirit's case , however, is worse than that of ignorance, he has fended off all attempts to see the reality ahead because he is just plain STUPID. Plus i will charge that A.S. is so fanatically a Democratic that A.S, would feverishly SUPPORT everything Bush is doing if it was being done by a Democrat. i will say the same for Sioux Pal. If Hillary Clinton became president she would carry on exactly like Bush in F.P. and Sioux Pal would be arguing FOR the very same things she/he now condemn. These are not thinking people, with free minds, they are political drones to what ever party they be addicted too. This is about how this country has been taken over by the Bipartisan War Party. Nothing has made me more pessimistic about our future then to have witnessed on the the Zeev Politics thread and the Sioux Nation thread how many of the unawake can't stop and think that as they bash and bash Bush their own damned party is No DAMNED better. i have been forming scenario of what will happen next, it will center on Muqtada al Sadr and Iran and as time goes by those that still possess a soul will realize how evil the ambitions of our country, be that country run by Bush or Hillary Clinton. i also charge that The Nation magazine exists in this same incredibly IGNORANT belief that when Bush is gone the nightmare is over. ********************************************** But i wil close by saying the war with Iran will start BEFORE 2008 and that Hillary Clinton and Giuliani and Obama and Edwards will ALL support this next war. If that happens, i will search out this post, and repost it to A.S. But i know what A.S. will be doing then, he would be supporting this action because Hillary Clinton is. Max i quote the most excellent Leonard Cohen from his song the The Future " I have seen the future and it is murder"