To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (102292 ) 3/18/2007 1:22:27 PM From: ThirdEye Respond to of 361428 The only people in Venezuela whining about or opposed to him are the ones who are no longer able to screw the populace. Not so fast there, Karen. A close friend of mine, a well-educated but not aristocratic Venezuelan whose family still lives there and who recently spent three weeks in Venezuela after the election on December 20, responded with the email below(posted without editing) after I sent her this article:commondreams.org Marcel Granier is a respected Venezuelan journalist. I am not talking respected in the last 3 or 4 years. I mean respected since I was a child. RCTV has been a commercial tv station that refuses the intimidation tactics imposed by theChavez regime, by airing political debates that allow the opposition to have a voice. Dozens of journalists that are linked to RCTV have had to flee the country under threats by the governement's secret police. Two of them have been murdered. However, since it is mandated by law, RCTV has no choice (as neither do the other tv stations) but to submit and air the endless (up to 6 hour) populist-rhetoric charged Chavez speeches in national chains. I have witnessed this. Pedro Carmona did not have TIME to remove the national assembly, because he was "in Power" for no longer than 8 hours. Carmona could have saved Venezuela. But It was an ill prepared coup d'etat. It was an opportunity and Carmona seized it as best as he could. People close to Chavez were ambivalent and in fear. Chavez left to the island "La Orchila" and from there gave orders and threatened his closest people. His vice-president ran to the Chilean embassy to ask for political assilum (that SOB). Everyone packed their bags and were getting the hell out. But when Carmona came out on TV, the international arena (other presidents of neighboring countries) were ambivalent of whether to support this or not. Venezuelans supporting the coup came to the streets (by the thousands). 15 were gunned down by government snipers that were strategically placed with this intention. Everyone saw this first hand. There was no secrecy, the government threatened the people with death. You went out to the protests, you were killed. The government didn't even bother with denying responsibility. Bart Jones needs to stay in Venezuela for a few years to understand what's happening. I don't know who is "we" when he says "we are told". There is no secret about the nationalization of every fucking company (which were privatized in the mid eighties due to the degree of corruption and inefficiency that characterized their "management" for the prior three decades) . He needs to take a crash course in Spanish, to understand the non-sense that comes out of Chavez's mouth. Venezuela is a country with a tradition for education and we pride ourselves in being a land of young intellectuals. Chavez is a crying humilliation of the Venezuelan ideals. This Jones guy needs to go out, talk to the cab drivers, the butcher, the housekeeper, the teacher, the doctors, and the intellectuals, to get the real scoop. He needs to read the newspapers, without exception: El Nacional, El Diario de Caracas, El Universal. NEwspapers that have existed before he was born, and that are read and written by the people of Venezuela. He needs to listen to that, not just eat the load of bullshit the Venezuelan Communist party feeds the international press, or what Granma (the Castro funded cuban radio station) is saying. He'd be surprised. And relating to the 'Landslide" in December, only the venezuelan people know what happened. There were no parades or cars honking or people in the streets celebrating the "triumph" that chavez claims. THe people of Venezuela were in mourning. Everyone went to bed after the exit polls, turned off the light, and dealt with the loss of their hopes. THere was an absolute silence in the cities throughout the entire country, I am not making this up. You couldn't hear a thing, not a radio, not a car, not a voice, not a dog barking. The streets were empty, the people were dealing with the collective death of their last hope that democracy would prevail. Chavez stole the election and his cynicism was obvious the morning of the elections when he was asked how he felt about the electoral process. A journalist asked him "what would you do if you lose the elections?" He replied: "That's impossible".