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To: American Spirit who wrote (74724)	3/18/2007 4:25:29 AM
From: LTK007	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

If this plays out over time as i think it will i will see how you evolve with it. If i am right about matters in future playout you will have to then answer to the question 'are you a democrat?" With 'I used to be, but now i am an independent, as i realize the democratic and republican parties are both part of the same Amoeba' The amoeba being largely what you describe except that you refuse to confront the power of AIPAC and the Israel Lobby in of all this.But from your other remarks i think you are hiding your how can we say, euphemistically, well let's say your discomfort with "foreign" people, like "those arabs" or those "Chinese", and harbor a " thank GAWD i am an AMERICAN!" conceit/condescension. i do not think you are cognizant of the immense complexity of the jewish community and the fact more jews are speaking up regards their ethnicity being arbitarily defined and ruled by fanatic hardline zionist. i do not think you know much about the history of zionism. i don't think you know much about history in general, for that matter. And this quote from you is as stinking sweeping smear level sliming one can write and reveals how damned ignorant you are about a great deal << What are you going to do, start a new Nazi empire and get rid of all the Jews? Give it up, man. We all know Jews have a lot of power. But most of them are liberal and if you don't know that you're ignorant.>> Only yourself revealed how profoundly ignorant, and by saying ignorant i am being kind. And these words are basically racist and worthy of coming from the mouth of anti-Palestinian fanatic. These are he words of a racist or brainwashed dolt A.S. said <<Also, the day a Palestinian leader stands up and says "let's make peace and live like good neighbors" that will go a long way to making Israel relax. Until then it is what it is.>> Gawd the Darkness of those words. i attach several articles and post that if you read may enlighten you. But i do not think they will enlighten you, as you are a clenched fist of bigotries. Now what constitutes a "liberal"? For you that will most definitly be Haim Saban, o A.S. you would love this guy. Haim Saban, multi-billionaire is a huge backer of the Democratic party, and maintains he is a liberal, but he is also an ultra-rightwing zionist that considers Ariel Sharon as great a jew that ever lived. He is as rightwing regards Israel destiny than Avignon Lieberman. Now if you do not know what Avignon Lieberman stands for and argues for, then you really should remove yourself from discussing Israel, because you really know too little. Now i begin links to two recent posts by me. If one wants to know what is going these days regards the HardLine Far-Right Zionist and the tension in the jewish community itself over this i suggest you read. The first post commences with these words <<Disturbing: My wife has been hearing what she refers to as outright scary violent pro Zionist and arab hating propaganda on a little local station that belongs to the large extensive Cumulus Broadcasting Network. This means these "commentaries" are being heard on radio stations in every nook and cranny in the U.S. The commentator is David Harris, of left wing origin, and once husband of Joan Baez--but whom she divorced many many years ago.>> rest of post Message 23372852 i add now a question. Where does the many millions of dollars come from to finance these "paid for by the AJC" commercial "commentaries" that amount to the Israel Lobby's equivalent to Nazi propaganda against Jews, except here it is against Arabs(and since arabs are semitic how ironic this hate speech by Harris , is, o my, Anti-Semitic!! Now how insane is that!!! So where from the money? From the Israel Lobby and the likes of Haim Saban, a liberal democrat that is probably your kind of fellow A.S.. Yes, i see you as a Haim Saban type liberal, yup, that is what you are, i have you pegged now. Make any movies lately, A.S. ******************************************************** the next posts commences <<The attack on Jewisn progressives as being Anti-Semites: American Jewish Commttee Report Goes After Liberal Anti-Semites By M.J. Rosenberg Today's New York Times carries a news item about a report issued by the American Jewish Committee which attacks progressive Jewish critics of Israeli policies as anti-semitic.>> rest of post Message 23378246